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RogerD 08-17-2009 11:19 PM

RogerD's 1969 Dick Harrell Chevelle
 
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:biggthumpup:Tracked down/bought back on Aug 13, 2009, 40 years later!!

Copy of Craigslist (Relished) ad I found on Aug 11, 2009 :)
https://www.yenko.net/forum/picture....4&pictureid=45

August 13, 2009 - money changes hands :)
https://www.yenko.net/forum/picture....4&pictureid=46

August 1985 Missouri inspection sticker on the windshield :)
https://www.yenko.net/forum/picture....4&pictureid=47

It's not a SS, never had SS trappings just a 'Malibu'
Blue bowtie on the grill
V8 emblems on fenders
Dick Harrell emblem on the deck lid . . .

Purchased my ’69 COPO/Dick Harrell Chevelle new on Aug 19, 1969 from Bill Allen Chevrolet, NKC, MO.
1st date KarenB in this car Memorial Day weekend May 30, 1970
Asked her to marry me two weeks later and she accepted!
Traded the car off in Oct 1970, engine trouble :(
Married KarenB a few weeks later :)

Car is home Aug 16, 2009 after a grueling 1,902 mile road trip
That's Karen standing next to me and our first date car :)
It’s white now but still Monaco Orange underneath
It will be the original orange again :)
Black interior w/bucket seats now
It will be the original parchment with bench seat again :)

As it looks Aug 13, 2009 and and copies of my original paperwork, saved all these years :biggthumpup:

Kim_Howie 08-17-2009 11:30 PM

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Congrates in getting your car back!!!! Another one turns up !!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

Xplantdad 08-18-2009 12:01 AM

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Very cool Roger! I remember that you were looking for it...but you weren't holding out too much hope.

Congratulations!

COPO_Anders 08-18-2009 12:17 AM

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This 427 seemed legit.

http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/q...Sept-06076.jpg

SS427 08-18-2009 12:37 AM

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Awesome Roger and congrats on getting her back! Can't wait to see the progression of the restoration and hear the stories. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif

Bring the Chevelle and your lovely wife to the reunion in a few weeks. We would LOVE to see the car and meet you and your wife!!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

69L78Post 08-18-2009 12:45 AM

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Nice, you learn something new everyday. When the car was new, did it carry a regular SS style hood? Do you have any original pictures of the hood and blackout treatment/stripe?

RogerD 08-18-2009 01:44 AM

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It had an SS hood and SS wheels - no SS emblems except the wheels ...
The hood had black stripes - Large Chevy "flags" on the front fenders & Dick Harrell emblem on the deck . . .
This is a photoshopped picture of what it looked like new . . .

mockingbird812 08-18-2009 03:23 AM

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Big Congrats and welcome to the site! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

Did your trim tag have a code 72 for orange paint or did DH dealership paint it that color?

Dave Rifkin 08-18-2009 05:05 AM

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It did have the SS hood but absolutely no SS emblems anywhere on the car. . .
The hood had black stripes - I believe the Dick Harrell emblem on the deck lid was a black rectangle instead of the one shown here (my memory is a bit confused on the DHPC emblem).

http://www.northshoreclub.net/69DHPC/RD_69-DHC_1_2.jpg

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Is it me or does the bow tie emblem, the black stripes and the dealer sticker all look like they've been photo shopped and you can see the faint outline of the SS emblems on the tail panel.
Are these touched up pictures of someone else's car so we can get a better idea of how your car looked when new?

BTW, congratulations on getting her back; can't wait to see how things progress.

Xplantdad 08-18-2009 05:43 AM

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Yes...he photoshopped the pics so that he could show what it looked like when it was new! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

DarrenX33 08-18-2009 05:51 AM

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Wow that's cool. How many 69 DHPC Chevelles are out there?

GenOne 08-18-2009 06:07 AM

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I just love this story - Grats!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

RogerD 08-18-2009 06:13 AM

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Only one '69 that I know of :)
Here's a picture of the Cowl tag on my 1969 Dick Harrell Chevelle . . .

Salvatore 08-18-2009 06:13 AM

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WOW! This makes my week! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif

RogerD 08-18-2009 06:31 AM

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So, was it legit or was it a fake? If it was fake, I am hopeful the scammer received exactly what he deserved.
My car is legit, I have the original docs from my 1966 Chevelle SS 396 trade in, the original docs on the 1969 DHPC Chevelle purchased on Aug 19, 1969 and the original docs on my 1970 Camaro for which the 1969 DHPC was traded in Octoberr 1970.
I'm a pack rat don't you know - sure pays off some times!!!

This 427 posted by COPO Anders seemed legit.
http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/q...Sept-06076.jpg

1969grb 08-18-2009 07:09 AM

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Roger, Congrats on finding your original car. What a great story. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

Grady https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif

DarrenX33 08-18-2009 07:11 AM

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I learned something I figure. I thought only SS and COPO got 72 paint.

mockingbird812 08-18-2009 07:40 AM

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Thanks for the shot of the trim tag. I'm w/ Darren on the code 72 paint, but I'm open to exceptions. I also see the "L" on the trim tag which for a Kansas built car (it was my understanding) indicated an SS Chevelle. Keep the photos and info coming!

DarrenX33 08-18-2009 08:29 AM

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That invoice does say Malibu with Special Paint. I would have thought "special" would get a "--" https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif

Neat!

camarojoe 08-18-2009 10:30 AM

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If it was a Malibu it should have had lower moldings, and the extended front grill/fender moldings, rather than the wheel lip moldings the SS cars had. What "V8" emblems are you referring to? A standard Malibu would have had "Malibu" emblems on each quarter panel, and of course a Malibu wouldn't normally have an SS hood...Seems strange they'd replace the stock hood with a steel SS hood rather than a fiberglass aftermarket one. I've also never seen a 72 72 code on a 69 Malibu...lots of oddities here.https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif

A cool car for sure..

Dave Rifkin 08-18-2009 03:30 PM

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That car must have been beautiful when it was new; it's a shame someone had to paint it a different color and change the interior.

RogerD 08-18-2009 03:39 PM

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It was beautiful indeed!

The photo shopped picture (posted at the beginning of this thread on how the car looked in 1969) shows how my car looked the day I bought it new.
The SS hood and wheels plus the large Chevy crossed flags & one Harrell emblem on thed eck lid.
There were no SS emblems (other than the wheels) on the car . . .

Several friends around my home town (Plattsburg, MO) rode in this car, a few friends with (hot cars) saw the tail lights when we met for impromptu "drag races" at our favorite flat stretches (Hwy 33, a few miles South East of Plattsburg or Hwy 116 at the West edge of Plattsburg).

Mr70 08-18-2009 05:03 PM

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Welcome.
By chance have you located the original Buildsheet from under the backseat,carpet or door panels?
Do you have any Bill Allen Chevrolet specific documents for it as well?
It looks like it coulda been delivered from the factory to Bill Allen Chev.as a Super Sport,before being sent to DHPC where it was doctored down,(SS body emblems removed),to be a "sleeper" of sorts and have the 427cid.installed,among other items.
Do you remember if the tail panel was blacked out when you got it?
Good for you for obtaining it back.


SuperNovaSS 08-18-2009 07:43 PM

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Is the rearend still under the car? If so, what is the code?


Thanks,


Jason

RogerD 08-18-2009 08:14 PM

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Original 12 bolt rear end with 4.10 positrack gears is gone - has a 10 bolt installed now . . .

RogerD 08-18-2009 08:21 PM

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Do not have a build sheet at this time . . .
Will pull the gas tank and rear panels when time permits to see if by some stretch one might be there . . .
Original front bench is long gone . . .
Posted a scanned image of the DHPC 'window sticker' and Bill Allen Chevrolet "Customer Invoice" in the previous pages . . .
Also have the original Owner Manual and 12/12 - 5/50 warranty brochure that were delivered with the car . . .


Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr70 (Post 1044343)
Welcome.
By chance have you located the original Buildsheet from under the backseat,carpet or door panels?
Do you have any Bill Allen Chevrolet specific documents for it as well?
It looks like it coulda been delivered from the factory to Bill Allen Chev.as a Super Sport,before being sent to DHPC where it was doctored down,(SS body emblems removed),to be a "sleeper" of sorts and have the 427cid.installed,among other items.
Do you remember if the tail panel was blacked out when you got it?
Good for you for obtaining it back.


Mr70 08-18-2009 09:00 PM

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I was just wondering if you had anymore then what you already posted,to show what it was assembled as from the factory,before being sent to DHPC.
Neat stuff for sure.
Check under both backseat cushions too,as most Kansas-Leeds assemblies have had their buildsheets found there,secured with a hog ring against the springs.
Under the carpet,then both doors & rearside panels too,and even under the rear package tray speaker cardboard,while you have the backseat out.

69Tom 08-18-2009 10:23 PM

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That's great Roger. Congratulations on getting your car back. I can't imagine how excited you must have been when you found it. Which I'm sure took some serious research.

Sadly, since the interior is now a different color, the original seats are long gone. And at the least, if they were recovered, they most likely wouldn't have put the build sheet back.

Did your car come with the sleeper dog dish caps, or did it have the SS wheels on it?

All in all, very cool!

Postsedan 08-18-2009 11:59 PM

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Roger,

I for one truly do hope your car is the real deal.....however, lots more to learn about it...and why?

I would tend to agree with.... Mr.70

"It looks like it coulda been delivered from the factory to Bill Allen Chev.as a Super Sport,before being sent to DHPC where it was doctored down,(SS body emblems removed),to be a "sleeper" of sorts and have the 427cid.installed,among other items."

OR most likely began life as an SS going down the assemble line....this explains the 72 72 code. Otherwise it would have been a - - paint code.

"Original 12 bolt rear end with 4.10 positrack gears is gone - has a 10 bolt installed now . . ."

You`ll either have to try and find a KK code 12 bolt case. Which are getting extremely harder and harder to find. Or find a dated 12 bolt and add the 4:10`s to it.

Or another guess, is perhaps it was born with a different gear set (3:31 or 3:55) and the 4:10 was part of the DHPC?

Many questions?

Dan.

RogerD 08-19-2009 01:22 AM

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Dan - My car is the real deal, just missing a few (key) components - I will plan to restore it as GM built it and as modified by Harrell's shop :biggthumpup:

Bottom line, I have THE 1969 DHPC Chevelle I bought brand new on Aug 19, 1969 - today is Aug 18, 2009 - almost 40 years later on the nose :)
I know it's missing a few (key) components but it will make one heck of a ride for me & Karen even if it NEVER qualifies for the 'hall of fame' :biggthumpup:

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My hat is off to Dan P (1968MotionL88) - he provided a VITAL bit of information that ultimately led to the successful tracking down of my 1969 Dick Harrell Chevelle!!!!!
Quote:

Originally Posted by Postsedan (Post 1044349)
Roger,

I for one truly do hope your car is the real deal.....however, lots more to learn about it...and why?
I would tend to agree with.... Mr.70

"It looks like it coulda been delivered from the factory to Bill Allen Chev.as a Super Sport,before being sent to DHPC where it was doctored down,(SS body emblems removed),to be a "sleeper" of sorts and have the 427cid.installed,among other items."
OR most likely began life as an SS going down the assemble line....this explains the 72 72 code. Otherwise it would have been a - - paint code.

"Original 12 bolt rear end with 4.10 positrack gears is gone - has a 10 bolt installed now . . ."
You`ll either have to try and find a KK code 12 bolt case. Which are getting extremely harder and harder to find. Or find a dated 12 bolt and add the 4:10`s to it.
Or another guess, is perhaps it was born with a different gear set (3:31 or 3:55) and the 4:10 was part of the DHPC?

Many questions?

Dan.


camarojoe 08-19-2009 01:27 AM

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If it was a Malibu wouldn't it likely have had a 10 bolt in it originally?... I'd be very surprised if they took a new car and swapped in a complete 12 bolt rear end, put an SS hood on it and SS wheels (if the ones in your photoshop pics are indeed the style it originally had.) not to mention the color, which generally points to an SS-only option. I'd bet a dollar to doughnuts it was an SS car from day one, and they simply removed the SS emblems prior to your purchase.

al8apex 08-19-2009 01:41 AM

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If it was a Malibu wouldn't it likely have had a 10 bolt in it originally?... I'd be very surprised if they took a new car and swapped in a complete 12 bolt rear end, put an SS hood on it and SS wheels (if the ones in your photoshop pics are indeed the style it originally had.) not to mention the color, which generally points to an SS-only option. I'd bet a dollar to doughnuts it was an SS car from day one, and they simply removed the SS emblems prior to your purchase.

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I am confused here ...

they made "plain" Camaros with 12 bolts and 427's

why couldn't they have made a "plain" Malibu with them?

I think there are too many people thinking in the wrong direction here

he has the original paperwork (it is pictured in the 1st post), the car is the same car, same vin, just 40 years later and some missing parts, why are there so many doubters? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

scuncio 08-19-2009 02:22 AM

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I guess I don't see how this car couldn't be 'the real deal' - the paperwork suggests it's at least a Dick Harrell conversion regardless of what it started out as. Pretty amazing luck finding this car after 40 years!

Mr70 08-19-2009 04:25 AM

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Absolutely Tony..well said.I don't think anyone is questioning that.
I just wanted to take a step back,and look at what it started out as,nothing more then that.I think it's a great car w/heritage ta boot,and didn't mean to take anything away from Roger getting it back.

scuncio 08-19-2009 06:09 AM

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Rick, totally agree with you and my comments weren't directed to anyone in particular.

camarojoe 08-19-2009 06:44 AM

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I am confused here ...

they made "plain" Camaros with 12 bolts and 427's

why couldn't they have made a "plain" Malibu with them?

I think there are too many people thinking in the wrong direction here

he has the original paperwork (it is pictured in the 1st post), the car is the same car, same vin, just 40 years later and some missing parts, why are there so many doubters? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

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Yes you are confused. No doubt its a real Harrell car, no one's questioning that. We all just want to know what it started out as prior to the DH conversion...it seems like it was more than "just" a Malibu, even before the DH conversion...at minimum it seems like it had SS equipment, and actually the more I look at it everything seems to point to it being a COPO car... Did the car have front disc brakes originally? Oh, and what's the deal with the engine block posted by Anders? Is that the block from this car?

SuperNovaSS 08-19-2009 06:48 AM

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I think that was a engine that Rich Pern had. He bought it and found that partial VIN by the oil filter.


Jason

Mr. Chevy 08-19-2009 07:02 AM

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Possibly a special order Malibu?? All the same,what makes this car the COOLEST is that it is a REAL Dickie Harrell prepped car!!!! How many of these do you see everyday????

Very Awesome Car and back in the "right hands"

Rich

RogerD 08-19-2009 02:22 PM

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I FedExed notarized 'CERTIFIED TRUE COPY OF ORIGINAL' documents in color over to Valerie Harrell that establish a before/during/after ownership chronology on my 1969 DHPC Chevelle as follows:

1. May 21, 1966 - Customer Invoice and window sticker on my 1966 Chevelle SS (paid $3,361.00 new) - really t'd off my foreman at work (Ford Motor Company - Claycomo, MO)

2. Aug 19, 1969 - Customer Invoice and window sticker on my 1969 DHPC Chevelle that shows my 1966 Chevelle SS 396 as the trade in (at $1,859.15 with 105K miles - paid $2,700.00 difference) - just had to have that 69 Orange DHPC Chevelle . . .

3. Oct 19, 1970 - Customer Invoice and window sticker on my 1970 Camaro for which my 1969 DHPC Chevelle was traded in (received a whopping $2,245.95 trade in on the 69 DHPC Chevelle - still owed $1,927.83 on the 69 DHPC Chevelle to GMAC) - note, I'm not a financial genius as you may well have concluded here . . .

These original documents are unaltered and in generally good condition (subject to normal wear and tear from handling over the last 43 years)

I am hopeful that by providing these documents, DHPC will find them acceptable to enable sharing information available from their archives with me on my 1969 DHPC Chevelle!

Air cleaner had no decals, valve covers were chrome, I conclude it was/is a K plant COPO but have only the Bill Allen document to support that.

There were absolutely no SS emblems on the car - just the large size flags on the front fenders and a nondescript Dick Harrell sticker on the deck lid.

It did have the 69 SS hood with chrome 'vents' at the rear - the hood was striped black as shown in my photoshopped pictures - no stripes on the top or rear, I recall the back panel below the trunk lid was black, no SS emblem in the middle.

It had a "Malibu" trim above the glove box, the wheels were 14” SS wheels - currently has 15” RS on the car.

I will never forget clipping a highway construction barrell about 1:30AM early, early one November '69 morning while heading home - when I scrapped the LF fender, the flat spot was there (it's the OEM fender) - bumper shows signs of that encounter as well - I swerved at the last moment - didn't even knock the bbl over but it put a flat spot on the driver fender . . .

camarojoe 08-19-2009 06:18 PM

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So you saved all that paperwork but never took a single photograph of the car when it was new or near new? A few original pics would sure be a help now. Any chance you might have any?

I definitely believe your car is a COPO 427...even if you don't!


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