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69Tom 10-25-2011 10:25 PM

1970 SCJ Falcon
 
So cool. Not a Torino, a Falcon. I'm sure many of you have seen it before. Still, surprised to see it up for sale.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/70-1-2-Fa...=item2c6030fde0

Xplantdad 10-25-2011 11:20 PM

Re: 1970 SCJ Falcon
 
That's pretty cool...a bare bones brawler! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif[/img]

mockingbird812 10-25-2011 11:23 PM

Re: 1970 SCJ Falcon
 
That is one rare and stealthy BEAST! I like it!

69Tom 10-25-2011 11:56 PM

Re: 1970 SCJ Falcon
 
It's automatic brother is for sale too!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/429-SCJ-D...=item2c6036c8f1

442w30 10-26-2011 02:49 AM

Re: 1970 SCJ Falcon
 
I think this car is more interesting . . . and much rarer.

http://www.10-e.net/torino/

PhilS 10-26-2011 05:26 AM

Re: 1970 SCJ Falcon
 
The 385 series SCJs have been under appreciated and largely overlooked. We just dynoed mine at 438hp and over 450ft pounds of torque. Only departure from stock is a roller cam.

mockingbird812 10-26-2011 04:50 PM

Re: 1970 SCJ Falcon
 
Hey, one of you Ford-freaks (meant in the kindest way possible) re-educate me on diffs betw CJ and SCJ (same HP/Trq - right? but with different bottom ends?). [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif[/img]

Also noticed in one of the ads above that one of the Falcons touted an SCJ but the window sticker only mentions CJ.

And another thing...what is the significance of the drag-pak option relative to the nomenclature of the car?

And just one more thing...what was included in the Drag pak?

Ok, definitely the last one...what was the significance of the shaker hood scoop in the naming of the car?

I lied....Would default be rubber floor matting on these Falcons?

442w30 10-26-2011 07:41 PM

Re: 1970 SCJ Falcon
 
There's a lot of misinformation about Fords - check out Mr. Sefton's '71 Cobra in the latest MCR and you'll see a few mistakes - so I'll try to balance it out the best I can since I'm not a Ford guy.

Any Cobra Jet with the Drag Pack becomes a Super Cobra Jet.

Most important is the 3.91 or 4.30 gears (or, for 1971 429 Mustangs, the former or 4.11 gears). Then there's a different carb, rods, and more heavy-duty stuff, plus an external oil cooler.

The Drag Pack was available on the non-ram air and ram air cars, but the DP is MUCH rarer on the non-ram air cars.

In the past, some references suggest the R-code (428) or J-code (429) motors, which are CJs with ram air, automatically make it a SCJ, but this is not true. SCJs are CJs with Drag Packs - simple as that!

mockingbird812 10-26-2011 07:55 PM

Re: 1970 SCJ Falcon
 
So the drag pack (with more agressive gears and engine upgrades) denotes the &quot;S&quot; in SCJ?

Thanks Diego

442w30 10-26-2011 08:23 PM

Re: 1970 SCJ Falcon
 
Yes, the Drag Pack makes the Cobra Jet &quot;Super!&quot;

So here's my bone to pick with the article on Sefton's Cobra:

The 429/360 - the Thunder Jet - was not available in 1971.

And the other two 429s were Cobra Jets - the C-code without ram air, and the J-code with ram air.

The Super Cobra Jet never received its own engine designation per the VIN, so I don't consider it a separate engine. In Mopar Land, you just specified 4.10 gears and then you got the Super Track Pack, so the CJ/SCJ really is not much different except that it was packaged differently and with some heavy-duty engine parts added.

And, of course, the SCJ wasn't built for the Torino in 1971, as Marti Auto Works has determined.


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