Here is a another 3-speed, This one is a Saginaw with 2.85 1st gear. It was Very Dirty on the outside, But when i opened it up, It looks Almost New! These tranny's are Very Strong. All the Roundy-Round Guy's Run em. For some reason they arent popular ? My Tranny guy says that they are Stronger than "RockCrusher's". I dont know? I also have a M22 - in my Trans am and its Loud !! It's Funny , But People who Dont know that M22's are Suppose to Make Noise, Think That something is wrong with The Tranny.