[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Yea, bummer it got pulled. When it comes to the vin lists, people need to understand at least one very important fact: they are just numbers that are the start of the search, not the conclusion! If you can remain objective about a vin #, and not attach any emotion, names, owners, history, story, 'x', whatever to it, then you can determine if that number meets some type of criteria which might land it on a listing. If it sounds oversimplified - its because it really can be simple.

I'll try to recapture the essence of the discussion but leave out the personal references. The topic was the '69 Yenko Nova vin listing that was on the site, the issue was essentially what justification existed for the cars on that listing.

The listing of 22 +/- '69 Yenko Nova vins was obtained years ago from one of many sources of the vins, and that source had obtained them presumeably from vince. So, you can already see that there is not a whole lot to go on here! Also, we know that not all the '37' cars were converted, but there is no concrete method to determine the conversion status with just the vin. So, we use other methods, including the info files that Warren D. makes available to owners, along with owner recollections, etc.... This is pretty much a rehash topic for most who have been in this awhile.

The issue became the Nutmeg car that BKH used to own, and the fact that it was added to the listing. Some felt that it was added for political reasons which in turn would increase its value because it would have a stigma of being a 'converted' car - which it was not.

When the car sold for an disclosed sum, folks got excited thinking that the value was pumped up because of its presence on the vin list and that there was somehow fraud involved. The flaw with that thinking was that it presumed that the buyer was somehow mislead, or was incapable of determining the value of the car. That is where the thread took a bad turn bec/ folks were weighing in on a transaction to which they were not a party to!

So, if the thread were to continue, the valid question still stands; 'how does a '69 Nova vin make the list'? Tom C. has a fairly consistent approach to his logic, he can fill in the blanks: