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Tom you have said the car is a re-tag anyway you look at it. You have said you will help Bergy find the body if it still exists. I assume from this that you have unassailable eyewitness (your own eyes) evidence that this car Bergy has is not the Yenko car. So you either saw the remainder of the Yenko in that junkyard at the same time bergy's car was being "assembled" or you saw the little bit of 587974 that was left after the rest of IT was being assembled under the VIN tag of 616414?

I am not questioning your assertions - you seem as sure as Bergy does in his point of view and that's fair - I am just trying to get it (the motive) straight in my own head as this is getting confusing.

So based on your point of view we have to deduct that someone took the following items and put them on an original spoiler car ( which 587974 was not) which means a THIRD car was involved:

-pass side frame rail extension exh hanger reinforcement
-orig single 3/8" fuel sender
-orig single 3/8" fuel line
-9204 booster dated for 03B car
-PS with fast ratio PS arm
-original PDB car
-orig deep groove PS pully
-orig 13/16 HD sway bar
-HD 5 leaf springs
-HD coil springs
-orig door with RG overspray t
-orig spoiler car (F&R)
-orig dash cluster with 140 speedo and holes for S&W tach

So they either wanted to have these special parts to clone a COPO, which they abandoned in favour of a Z28 clone, yet when the car was advertised as a Z28 clone none of these "added" parts were mentioned as special features as to the trouble the sellers went through to accurately clone a Z - "we have even added such things as original deep groove pulleys, HD springs..etc. in this incredible accurate re-creation".

I have not seen any language like this in theBay auction. So why do it and not call attention to it? OR the easy answer is that none of these parts were on the spoiler car they used so they just put them on not caring about their significance. They were just parts. Ok, I can see that.

But these people who have the trim tag and have the cowl stamping stopped short of the VIN tag saying, "no thanks"? If I had those two pieces and I was of that mindset (cloning) I would definitely pay the 20-23K to get the car that wore the VIN.

Unless the trim tag and the cowl stamping no longer exist and replacements have been mocked up in anticipation of resurrecting 616414 out of thin air. I know some people would not pay the sum of 23K, instead saying "let's just get a re-done VIN tag from the same guy who made the TT for us." Perhaps you know this as well.

I hope you and Bergy can figure this out together Tom. I'm just trying to get my own score card straight. As a former police officer I hope you appreciate my attempt to establish &quot;motive&quot; [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img] I just can't follow the logic based on what has been revealed in this thread and think you may have info to fill in the gaps.

Sorry if I have only further confused things.