[Steve_Hoog]

Dajudge

I kept thinking, "something is not right about your contradiction about the engineering building".

Granted I have never been to Michigan and not even seen photos, but I will try to find out more about this. Either the guy you talked to was wrong or the guy I talked to, plus a guy the lives here and I talked to in person is wrong.

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I have also done my own research and contacted GM and spoke to a person who works in GM archives the engineering dept was no where near the assembly line and they also stated that all legacy documentation is now in the hands of PHS

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The guy that gave me the perfect build sheet for the 70 Judge is the one that I talked to on the phone, I can't imagine how else he got that sheet if he didn't work there like he said. Which also validated his reference to the engineering department being a few feet away, to me anyway.

Then... Roy Phillips (long time dealer employee in Tulsa) was awarded a trip to the Pontiac plant in the early 60's. He had a camera, and I posted those pics. He said "there were these double doors right off the line that they let me go in, and it was The Hobby Shop but they wouldn't let me take my camera in there. There were two guys running a SD head casting machine, they were making them right there before me."

I don't have any reason to doubt either of these people, not that they couldn't be wrong. And then, maybe the guy you talked to is wrong?

Then I thought, what if your guy was thinking about the Milford Grounds which is about 25 miles west of Pontiac. Do you suppose that could be where the descrepency could be?

I also know two people who have been in the records room, which I believe is in the basement of the old Pontiac building. Maybe Jim was allowed to move everything since then. I also was told or read (don't remember which), that there is a cage in that room that NO ONE is allowed to go in. Not even Belair. J/K

I'll try to come up with some more info.