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Good morning everyone. I was hoping to gain a little insight on the current fair market value of copo camaros, specifically ones without the original drivetrains.
Earlier in the year, a 1969 fathom green copo/rs camaro sold at barrett jackson in scottsdale, arizona, for $150,700.00. Assuming that is an accurate gauge for copo/rs fair market value in 2010, does anybody have an educated guess about what that same car might have sold for if, for instance, the car had non-original engine, transmission and rear-end? Any help is greatly appreciated. |
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Every B-J contestant has signage stating that buyers are to assume non-original drivetrain and unknown miles unless otherwise stated. I was there and have one of the info cards the owner of this car [N640809] prepared for the show. It makes no mention of drivetrain originality but does claim 46,000 miles. The car was in the main tent so it could not be closely examined. Looked nice but probably not OE drivetrain.
This car would have done better with OE drivetrain and "real" docs. It went on the block Saturday evening, prime time sellers pay a premium for. My opinion? That's where non-Yenko L72 COPOs were. Where they are now will be determined at Scottsdale. Suddenly there are a number of them on the market.
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I think that William is talking about this car?
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I was led to believe this was an original drive train car... however if I had to assume I would say no after looking at the bio on the car. You would think it would dedicate a few lines to being clear the drive train is original instead of talking about a picture/painting the car was in
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You won't find an oe drivetrain real doc'd 69 COPO for $151,000.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: frankk</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You won't find an oe drivetrain real doc'd 69 COPO for $151,000. </div></div>Why not?
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Exactly.
It all depends on the personality and motivation of the seller. Some have to sell. Some collectors are high profile; some prefer privacy. Many cars are privately transacted. There is an automatic ZL-1 and an automatic Yenko quietly for sale here. No hurry, let's see where the market is. He has sold two cars out of his collection with a few phone calls and has a 3rd sale pending. Patience is usually rewarded.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GTO_DON</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: frankk</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You won't find an oe drivetrain real doc'd 69 COPO for $151,000. </div></div>Why not? </div></div> If I recall correctly the discussion on this site of the car in question, I believe the sale at BJ was an abnormality. The car was poorly presented, was not conclusive as to its technical merits and I believe someone stated most of the bidders had gone home when it came across the block.
69 COPO's with oe drivelines and real doc's are far and few between and finding one for sale gets even harder.I just don't believe an owner of such a car would use the BJ car as an example of value. |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: frankk</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GTO_DON</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: frankk</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You won't find an oe drivetrain real doc'd 69 COPO for $151,000. </div></div>Why not? </div></div> If I recall correctly the discussion on this site of the car in question, I believe the sale at BJ was an abnormality. The car was poorly presented, was not conclusive as to its technical merits and I believe someone stated most of the bidders had gone home when it came across the block.
</div></div> 100% incorrect. The car was prominently displayed in the main tent and went on the block during prime time, Saturday evening.
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