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My transmisson Went on the Firebird-It always had a "scratchy" 2nd gear since Ive owned it,But other than that it shifted fine-A few Days ago I took the Car for a ride, Getting on the gas a few times,When it Grinded in 2nd then made a loud Whirring Noise then Boom-I was able to limp it home in 1st gear. I called a few shops that werent even interested in doing the work I wanted,BUT > I did get ahold of a Transmission Shop who took the time to Talk with me & See what route i wanted to Go-my plans are to Put them "ROCKCRUSHER" gears with a complete rebuild-With a SPARE M-20 I Picked Up a Few Years ago-only hitch is that its a small pin case-here are the prices I got from shop
ROCKCRUSHER GEARS-$625 TORQUELOCKSLIDERS-$125 FORKS-$55 SMALL PARTS KIT-$35 307 BEARING-$42 308 BEARING-$22 1 INCH CASE-$150 & THEY WANT TO KEEP MY CASE ALL TOGETHER-WITH LABOR BALL PARKED AT -$1600 IM not a tranny guy-But Im on a budget-So My idea is to keep my "SPARE" M20 transmission-& Just have the transmission rebuilt thats already in the Car,because its a big pin case-that right there saves $150 & my case- Also I can get "ROCKCRUSHER" Gears for $512-And all the other parts needed for Cheaper-I JUST WOULD LIKE TO KNOW what parts are needed to to rebuild a muncie And what upgrade's are needed??Im in Buffalo,Ny- Most of these Transmission Shops are SHADY untrust worthy individuals,most of them will take your GOOD parts and tell you they were junk-then put inferior parts in your transmission's! Im just trying to get some Honest opinion's-I have been burned before and will NOT go through that Hassle again..
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1967 Firebird 496 BBC Stroker,M22 wide ratio,Thrush Mufflers Keystone Klassic's with Big&Little's,High Jacker Air shocks. |
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I don't know where in Western, NY you are, Hector, but I've heard good things about Rockland Standard Gear. They seems to have a very good handle (pun) on all things related to shifting a standard gear from the physical trans, clutch, gears, rebuilding, building and tech support. I have no experience myself in this outfit but if you're relatively local, maybe see what they're about?
Dan
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Crash from the board here is very reasonable. I had him do a few for us in the past and we were more than happy.
I would buy 1 done from him and sell your 1 in the car and your spare to offset the cost like on ebay or something. I got $450 for a crusty 65 M21 on there as a core needing work and $480 for a 65 T10 that has a mouse nest in it with rusty gears. Fex Ex can them for like $45 each to make it reasonable. |
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Here is the Spare Tranny-It is a "325" Case-there are number's on it 824P153667 AND PU2[3]U4-i dont know what they decodes to-But inside is VERY clean-I was told it is a GOOD working unit-But Dont know how to tell-Im weary of leaving at a transmission shop-I have heard HORROR stories about tranny guys who keep all your good parts & Put CRAP in to your "REBUILD"-IT's harsh,But I Dont trust ANY shops in my local area..
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1967 Firebird 496 BBC Stroker,M22 wide ratio,Thrush Mufflers Keystone Klassic's with Big&Little's,High Jacker Air shocks. |
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I just picked up a muncie 4 speed for a STEAL-It was on craigslist&When i went to look at it was filthy&painted orange-When i opened up the side cover everything looks clean&NEW-I was blown away on how clean it was-So I boght it on the spot &The seller Gave me EVRYTHING-So I got this large input+output Muncie M20-hurst comp+shifter That was in His Early Chevelle-flywheel-New Clutch kit-Bellhousing-Boots-The trans has a Tag 6271516WD-I cant find out what thats codes is-on the trans is P3R27A-I think that means OCTOBER 1973
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1967 Firebird 496 BBC Stroker,M22 wide ratio,Thrush Mufflers Keystone Klassic's with Big&Little's,High Jacker Air shocks. |
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Yes, that's a 1973 M20 according to the stamp.
Kurt
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![]() ![]() ![]() I lucked out with this-I emailed&spoke with numerous muncie builders&I still want to do a "ROCKCRUSHER" geared unit-Its still up in the air-I have 4 different muncie's to choose From-I have -the "010" muncie thats original to the Firebird-It needs a rebuild anyway- Also a "325" m20-small pin trans&two "661's"They are bothe big in&out's-I also have a Few 3 speeds....
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1967 Firebird 496 BBC Stroker,M22 wide ratio,Thrush Mufflers Keystone Klassic's with Big&Little's,High Jacker Air shocks. |
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![]() ![]() Here is a 3 speed-it has 3 grooves on the input, case #3925647-I think it was in a 2nd gen fbody-it has ITM shifter-but im not sure-I was told saginaw &muncie 3 speed are Very similar-
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1967 Firebird 496 BBC Stroker,M22 wide ratio,Thrush Mufflers Keystone Klassic's with Big&Little's,High Jacker Air shocks. |
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I just paid Midwest Muncie-to build a me a Killer M-22 Wide Ratio 4 speed-It should get to me in a week or So,Im So Excited-I can just hear that Gear Whine!-Out of all the Builders out there-Jeff is by Far the Nicest Guy-He took the time to answer all my Dumb Question's-You the Man Jeff.
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1967 Firebird 496 BBC Stroker,M22 wide ratio,Thrush Mufflers Keystone Klassic's with Big&Little's,High Jacker Air shocks. |
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Here is my NEW muncie M-22 Wide Ratio From Jeff at MidWest Muncie-its a High quality unit-With a steel mid plate-He got it to me FAST&He is a Really nice Guy-Its gonna Get Swapped in the Car Along with a New Clutch Set up&The pressure plate is getting switched from diaphragm To Borg&Beck Style-Also The Vintage Scattershield is goin on along with a LOOP-
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1967 Firebird 496 BBC Stroker,M22 wide ratio,Thrush Mufflers Keystone Klassic's with Big&Little's,High Jacker Air shocks. |
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