1969 442 value & codes

[notstock71]

I just stumbled onto a 69 442 thats been sitting quite awhile. It has a Chevy 350 and the original engine is gone. It does have some rust at the bottom of the fenders, doors and quarters. It does have a black bucket interior and a W27 (?) 12 bolt with the aluminum cover and the trunk spoiler. It is a complete car that needs restored. Here is the tags and what I have decoded thus far.

344879M......

ST 69-34487 BF04112
TR 934 B80 61 61
07B 477902 36-039

I have it as a 69 442 Holiday coupe. The VIN shows Lansing MI but the BF on the tag says Fremont CA. Any ideas? I believe the 61 61 is sable top and bottom and it was built the 2nd week of July. Can anyone fill in the blanks. The car is for sale and I know without pics it is difficult to say but any ideas on a price? I am viewing it as a roller since the 350 needs to come out. The interior is in pretty decent shape. He's hurting for money so cash talks here and I am hoping to drag it home tomorrow if I can get a deal struck.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Lewis

[notstock71]

The car is grey/silver. I am not sure what to think. A color change is no big deal but I believe the interior should be gold.I know that can be changed too but the two different plants listed between the VIN and trim tag and all the color changes makes me hesitant. I am also under the impression the W27 was a 1970 and 71 option. I am assuming it is the cover only and not the aluminum center section. I did not know to look closer. Regardless it does not seem to be original. Is there a way to determine what engine was in it?

[69Tom]

I don't mean to imply you don't know what you're getting into, but have you restored an Oldsmobile before?

Oh, I have a mountain of receipts and a lot of bad stories....

[Stefano]

All 1969 442s had a 400ci engine in them from the factory.

Not including the '69 HOs which had 455s

There were 400s of various HP ratings.

[Jim Ferron]

I've seen some pretty decent driver 442 s out there for under $20,000.

If the car was FREE...it would take more than $20K to turn it into a 20K car.

[olredalert]

-----Jim,,,I was just about to suggest something along the same line as you. This car just doesnt have a tremendous bunch of stuff going for it. It would have to be right about at free to make the deal work unless you already have a donor car or something.....Bill S

[notstock71]

You guys hit the nail on the head, I have no experience with anything than Chevys. I doubt I would keep the car but if it can be bought fairly and saved I'm all for it. I think I made it sound worse than it is. Ive seen much worse still on the road and the interior is in decent shape. I'm concerend with the plant conflict between the two tags.

[442w30]

If I were you, I'd do some research on if it truly has W-27 parts and which ones. They alone could be worth the cost of admission.

[notstock71]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 442w30</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If I were you, I'd do some research on if it truly has W-27 parts and which ones. They alone could be worth the cost of admission. </div></div>

I saw the cover first hand but due to inexperience I did not check the center section.

[LeeP]

The w-27 cover is likely reproduction, 1969 is not one of the most collectable years unless a hurst. They are difficult to resell because of the 400 engine and so far the car you described does not have great options. If it has a 4 speed or posi that makes the car a better buy. Automatic non posi 1969 would not be on my list to fix up and I am an olds guy. If you can resell it to save the car and make a profit go for it. My car has a w-27 and current value is $8000-12000 for just that all aluminum center section option.

Lee