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Old 04-29-2004, 07:06 AM
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OK, some of you have seen the recent posts in the tech area about the 427 I bought and was shipped a 402 instead.
Theres a new way to scam you on ebay. Here's how it works. They sell some legit objects, high dollar things, in my case engines. They sell them cheaply,and get great 100% pos feedback on related high dollar things. Then when they are ready, they put these things on ebay (in this case a rebuilt HiPerf 427) Once bidding gets up there and several people email them back asking specifics, they edit the auction with a "buy it now" offer. Remember, there feedback on high dollar itmes is great. Things like "said engine had 400 horses, I got 425! Great Seller" and such. They then call everyone who calls about the buy it now, which usually is not to low to believe, and in fact is a little high, but he is offering up a motor that is supposed to be totally rebuilt by a shop, which uses all name brand goodies in it. When you send the money, he ships you a cheap replacement item that is not worth near what you paid for it.
It is then VERY hard to get anything done, as you have recieved something for your money, and in fact in this was was an engine. You then have to explain to a investigator the difference between a 68 vette 427 and a 70 Monte Carlo 402. The seller claims you bought a Big Block Chevy and that is what he shipped you. It gets real hairy, unlike other scams where you get nothing for your money. They make thousands by selling you a 1500$ motor for up to 3 times that amount. Not a bad "profit" at your (my) expense.
In my case, the only good thing is this kid (He's a 24 year old college student) reportedly tried this last on a senator from Michigan, and was arrested prior to my complaint. Apparently his father is an attorney, and sued the police department in Bellingham, WA. Man, were they glad to hear from me. They really want to go after the kid now. Anyway, be extra careful, even if they have 100% pos feedback, and look like they sell expensive items, look at their auction history to make sure that they have low auction cancellations. This kid had a 60% calcellation ratio.
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Old 04-29-2004, 03:36 PM
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Default Re: A new way to Scam you.........Engine Scams

that's just great, a new angle
buyers beware.
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Old 04-29-2004, 04:21 PM
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Default Re: A new way to Scam you.........Engine Scams

Incredible.The walk in swapmeets are becoming more & more appealing to me lately.
Rich,can you link us the actual auction you won this engine from,or give us the Ebay number?
Maybe someothers will come forward who have had the same experience with this guy as you have.
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Old 04-29-2004, 06:30 PM
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I'm high bidder on some heads from WA, please tell me this isn't your deadbeat seller!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEBBI%3AIT
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bad juju????? I don't wanna know.
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Marlin this is the guy that constantly has trim tags for sale and markets them as ZL-1 COPO tags. I hope someone outbids you.
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If he's a bad egg, I'm pulling my bid! I don't know how to pull it, but I'll figure it out!
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Not sure if he is the guy that pulled the engine scam. I did recognize the seller name on your auction though. My personal feeling is I wouldn't do business with someone like this. I have a problem with guys selling trim tags. Especially when they market them as COPO or ZL1 to make more $. Not a bad price for credit card size piece of metal huh.

Here is an example of his work.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW
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I am so disappointed that I was not invited to this party! First of all I would like to set the record straight by saying I am not the "deadbeat seller" refered to in the original post and really don't appreciate by name and reputation being dragged through the mud on this thread. As far as DarrenX33's claim that I am the guy that "constantly" has trim tags for sale....I have sold a whooping total of two in the past three years. If you had done any checking at all you would have seen that the one you are referring to was relisted because the original buyer never paid for it. I would be willing to bet if you had a trim tag available, you would list it in a heartbeat! Who wouldn't?? It's not like I am the only person that has ever sold a trim tag...do a little digging and you will find that the desirable one's go for $250-$350. As long as there are people willing to pay that amount there will be people selling them. I have never forced anyone to bid on my items, they choose to and if you don't want to do business with me that's great!! I would like to thank you though for posting my auctions here, it has brought a lot of attention to them!

Oh and Marlin...like I said in the email I sent you, if you can't figure out how to cancel your bid I would be more than happy to oblige you!!

Have a great day and happy bidding!
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Here is the link to the auction with the engine I was supposed to get in it:
Ebay 427 Click Here

And no it was not "bad juju" it was chevynut1969.

Like I said, turns out he was arrested for this recently. His "daddy" is a big time lawyer up there. The "threats" have already started about "harassment" and "defamation" lawsuits. I replied that I am not going away and am going to be that that mole on his @ss, with him until he makes it RIGHT!
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