Genera lMotors becoming China Motors???

[Xplantdad]

BBBenny sent this to me to post...

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[beater68427]

It is sad in so many ways.. I do not want to get political but we are living and seeing a major change in society business and govenment our opinions may never agree with change but will also never change what is to come... in the 1940's Big business needed government now in the 2010's Government needs big business...

[jannes_z-28]

I would call this post a political one, and that is banned on this site you know.

On the other hand, why should GM not be in the largest auto market in the world? The total sales of cars in China is larger than in the USA. Why shouldn't GM be there? And to build them where the market is has always been part of GM strategy who has had overseas plants since 1920.

From a business point I can't see the problem. But from an protectionist American way, sure. But that view will not protect America. Global trade is what makes the economy spin, and market profit is what give our pensionfunds value. Don't forget that!

Jan

[Salvatore]

what a shame and we bailed them out! May have to go to Ford!

[70 Forest Green Zee]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jannes_z-28</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would call this post a political one, and that is banned on this site you know.

On the other hand, why should GM not be in the largest auto market in the world? The total sales of cars in China is larger than in the USA. Why shouldn't GM be there? And to build them where the market is has always been part of GM strategy who has had overseas plants since 1920.

From a business point I can't see the problem. But from an protectionist American way, sure. But that view will not protect America. Global trade is what makes the economy spin, and market profit is what give our pensionfunds value. Don't forget that!

Jan </div></div>

That's very easy for you to say Jan since it wasn't your hard earned tax dollars that helped to bail out GM. If 30 cents of every dollar you make went for taxes, then your government bailed out GM so they wouldn't go bankrupt, then GM turned around and pulled this kind of shit.....wouldn't you be pissed???? I'm thinking that you would

[jannes_z-28]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 70 Forest Green Zee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
That's very easy for you to say Jan since it wasn't your hard earned tax dollars that helped to bail out GM.</div></div>

Well, Swedish taxpayers contributed some money too for the SAAB deal. And we would have bought SAAB from GM if the socialists have had the decision votes, luckily for us taxpayers they didn't.

Jan

[DarrenX33]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jannes_z-28</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would call this post a political one, and that is banned on this site you know.

On the other hand, why should GM not be in the largest auto market in the world? The total sales of cars in China is larger than in the USA. Why shouldn't GM be there? And to build them where the market is has always been part of GM strategy who has had overseas plants since 1920.

From a business point I can't see the problem. But from an protectionist American way, sure. But that view will not protect America. Global trade is what makes the economy spin, and market profit is what give our pensionfunds value. Don't forget that!

Jan</div></div>

I have to agree.

Are we jumping to conclusions here? Every OEM (not just big 3) wants part of the China market as it is an emerging market. That's a bad thing because GM wants part of the action? Where did it say they are transferring all the jobs to China??? In the video it says they are diversifying, not transferring.

Here's a news flash. While a little slower to enter the game, Ford is doing the same thing. I'm certainly for Made in the USA. But to me that video is basically an anti China video more than a GM video. Do I want our American companies to be part of the huge growth in that market so they can make money off them? Why not? Is it much different from what Toyota is doing here?

[70 copo]

I do not see this as a political issue. Right now I am at the GM Tech center in Warren and it is pretty obvious that there is little going on here in the areas of maintenance and infrastructure upkeep. In lots of places the grass is not even mowed and the building exteriors are looking ragged. If the video is true and R+D is moving to PRC then what I see on the ground here looks ominous indeed.

Looks like GM is going to go where the customers are. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/burnout.gif[/img]

[wheelhop]

If you like Ford, don't they have a large stake of their business in Europe? What's the difference?

[bbbenny]

I;m A GM guy! But enough is enough. When this is all is done, with china. MORE american jobs will be lost forever! BBBenny [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/bs.gif[/img]