1970 El Camino Wrong Way Deaths~Minn.

[Mr70]

Incredibly sad...
https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2018/...sh-waite-park/

[bugsy]

Prayers sent to the family's who lost their lives.

[chevelleheart]

Just terrible, so tragic...prayers to the family’s also.

[70 copo]

OMG... how sad. Prayers sent. My heart breaks for the two guys in the ElCamino.

I guess this duplicates the Malibu vs a better full frame car that some in the collector car community said would show the older car to be safer in a corner frontal.

I was interested by the comments section in this particular Jalopnick article about the Malibu vs the 59 Bel Air where allegations were made that the IHS test was somehow rigged and Jalopnick investigated.

Discussion here: https://jalopnik.com/5364071/yes-the...-had-an-engine

Those Malibu's are super safe in a frontal crash. I have one for that very reason.

[big gear head]

I wonder if they were wearing seat belts, or if it would have made any difference. I wonder if wearing the lap belts in my Camaro would help in a serious crash. I always wear them, but I just wonder how affective they are in these old cars.

[Mr70]

Is it me,or are we seeing more & more wrong way deaths occurring today then say over the last 20-30-40 years?

[novadude]

Wow... even worse that it was a potential buyer on a test drive that killed the owner and destroyed the car.

[flyingn]

The person driving the wrong way just got out of prison the day before. Draw your own conclusions

[70 copo]

Originally Posted by Mr70

Is it me,or are we seeing more & more wrong way deaths occurring today then say over the last 20-30-40 years?

Yes I think so. Due to the regulations in place now it takes so long to construct a new road that one way street usage is back, the return of the round about, and other complex traffic solutions like two lanes flowing in the same direction - that may reverse within the same day all contribute to the creation of a vastly more confusing mix of new traffic flow patterns.

The one I detest is the two stop light between a curve pattern employed in Arizona under many of the freeway bridges. That one is an easy trap to fall into if you are from a part of the country where this is not used.

[x33rs]

Originally Posted by 70 copo

The one I detest is the two stop light between a curve pattern employed in Arizona under many of the freeway bridges. That one is an easy trap to fall into if you are from a part of the country where this is not used.

Yes, this is a big one ^^^

It's very easy to confuse the first stop light for your on freeway turn, which puts you in head on traffic, and there is nothing there to stop you from doing it. All it takes is some numb nut on medication, or drinking, not paying attention, and there you go.

I've seen more wrong way drivers here in Arizona than any other state I've lived in and I attribute that to these double stop lights at the freeway on and off ramps. At least once a week, sometimes more, there are wrong way drivers on the news.