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Old 04-10-2002, 09:52 PM
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Default Heater Delete GM Canadian COPO?

I was looking at the feature car for March and I didn't notice any heater hoses. Is this car heater delete?

How did they sell a GM Canadian car without a defrost and be legal? I though they only did that for cars that shipped over seas.
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Old 04-10-2002, 10:26 PM
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Default Re: Heater Delete GM Canadian COPO?

ALl three of my cars 67/68 & 69 RS's all are heater delete cars. One orginally from here in Hawaii the other two from the Southwest mainland (USA). I have never heard of a Heater being mandatory in order to make it legal to drive, no matter where it was shipped.
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Old 04-11-2002, 12:22 AM
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Default Re: Heater Delete GM Canadian COPO?

I drove a 1964 VW in Canada (Winnipeg)for years with no heater. It was mighty cold but perfectly legal!
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Old 04-11-2002, 03:17 AM
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Default Re: Heater Delete GM Canadian COPO?

The story (as I recall) on the heater delete is that there was a Gov. regulation stating that all cars starting in 1968 required a windshield defrost/defog system. The heater is part of the system. The 1967 Corvette L88s were heater delete but the 1968 L88s had heaters. I do not know if the defrost/defog Law was just continental USA or all states or if foreign sales were allowed a heater delete option. Does anyone have a window sticker or other documents from 68 or 69 with a heater delete option code? I don't know of any documented COPO 427 cars with heater delete option.
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Default Re: Heater Delete GM Canadian COPO?

Of the 50 or so COPO Camaro's that came to Canada, I have never seen a documented heater delete one. I would be interested in seeing some documentation if they have it.
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Default Re: Heater Delete GM Canadian COPO?

Hawaiian....I think the law was just for cars in the Continental U.S. I have also seen 69 Camaro's on Maui with Factory Heater Deletes.
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Default Re: Heater Delete GM Canadian COPO?

I got this from Rich Fields @ CRG when I asked the question.

The heater delete option was not allowed under US law as of
1 Jan 1968 because a new Federal law took effect on that
date (see below) mandating a front window defroster (and
thus the heater was required). The heater delete is listed
in the 1968 assembly manual, and might theoretically have
been briefly available at model introduction in September
1967 through the end of the calendar year; however we have
never seen a documented 1968 Camaro with a heater delete,
and Chevrolet production records show none as being sold.
Heater delete plates continued to be made for
over-the-counter sale after 1967, and can and were applied
to 1968-69 Camaros as an after-factory modification.
However, after 1967, heater delete plates were only used by
the factory on export vehicles or vehicles assembled
overseas, such as the Yutivo Phillipine Camaros.

For reference, see:

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/...s/safstan2.htm

Standard No. 103 -- Windshield Defrosting and Defogging
Systems -- Passenger Cars, Multipurpose Passenger Vehicles,
Trucks, and Buses (Effective 1-1-68)

This standard specifies requirements for windshield
defrosting and defogging systems.

Best wishes,

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Default Re: Heater Delete GM Canadian COPO?

That's really neat. I'd really like to see a '69 sticker with the heater delete option. If you get a copy could you send me a copy? Thanks I installed heater delete on my car and even though it isn't original it really looks neat.
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Default Re: Heater Delete GM Canadian COPO?

Where were these cars were built? Perhaps they could be some of the Phillipine built cars.
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The L78 Car was a LA car i believe No way it was a PI car, I have been trying to get over to The Big Island to take a look at one that is said to be one, and if it is with luck it will come home to Oahu. My mother-n-law (Filipino) remembers some of her friends did bring some of the Camaros back from the PI but just where they are now is anyones guess. Even have some of her family back in the PI looking for me. Ill try to get a pic of the 69's sticker and will send it out if it is listed as heater delete and will also post if its not listed.

Os with the PI Camaros some of the people there didnt even know they had some that were PI made.

http://www.dragracingpinoy.com

go to the photo gallery and then to AHRA events and the blue Camaro is a PI built car not sure of the others. It is said that the burgandy car was left when US Forces left when the volcano blew up.
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