Arnie Beswick's Tameless Tiger on Ebay

jfkheat · #1 10-24-2005, 03:21 AM

I just read this on the Performance Years site. This is Arnie Beswick's race car that someone in Greenville SC now has. The seller says he did work on the car and never got paid by Arnie so he is selling the car. Here is the link to the discussion and the auction.
James

http://216.178.81.108/forums/showthread.php?t=456971

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1963-TAME...sspagenameZWDVW

**firstgenaddict** · #2 10-24-2005, 06:19 PM

I have seen the car at Autograph color and collision numerous times over the years... on Woodruff Road in Greenville. James it is mid way between Laurens Road and Roper Mountain Rd on the Left if you were headed away from Laurens Rd.

**sixtiesmuscle** · #3 10-24-2005, 06:32 PM

Just so everyone knows Arnie's position on this, he is trying to find a way to stop this sale form taking place. He states that he loaned this car, less motor, to this guy to help him get started with his racing. He has attempted to retrieve it several times over the last couple of years, but, was unable to get the guy to cooperate. Of course, Arnie has also been recovering from the terrible injuries he received when his car caught fire. His belief is that the seller made up a bogus bill for work, and, received a fraudulent mechanic's lien. Hopefully, he will straighten this guy out, and, prevent the sale from creating ongoing legal problems for all concerned.

Belair62 · #4 10-24-2005, 06:46 PM

Was this the car that he had the fire in ?

**sixtiesmuscle** · #5 10-24-2005, 06:59 PM

No, it's not the fire car. It's the car he raced before that one. It's a long story, but, the essence is that the guy repaired Arnie's truck after a collision with a deer while down South. He gave the repaired truck back to Arnie with the statement like "maybe you can return the favor some day". Some time later, he asked to borrow the race car, after he wrecked his own. Arnie agreed, and, after a couple years, asked for the car back. Time went by, and, the car shows up on Ebay. Even if the guy finally decided he wanted payment for the work on the truck, he still can't be granted a mechanic's lien on the race car, can he? My point is that there is no way the guy can have a legally obtained title for this car.

Belair62 · #6 10-24-2005, 07:01 PM

I havent seen the 64 yet...only remember that 63...that sucks and I hope it gets worked out...

**firstgenaddict** · #7 10-24-2005, 07:03 PM

When I looked at the car the first time... about 4 years ago it had no motor in it... seems like somehting fishy is going on here! Lesson learned... never take a handout... the hand could come back and slap the $#!# out of you.

Steve_Hoog · #8 10-24-2005, 07:34 PM

I saw that when it was first posted on PY, I thought it was just another Ebay scam.

Sure hate to hear it's all this complicated, bad deal. Arnie has done so much for the Pontiac world; not matter how this developed, Arnie does not deserve it.

GM-26 · #9 10-24-2005, 11:05 PM

The seller added this statement to the auction:

On Oct-21-05 at 15:33:19 PDT, seller added the following information:

"THE OPENING LINE OF THE DESCIPTION SHOULD HAVE READ OWN A PIECE OF HISTORY. "FORMERLY" ARNIE BESWICKS' 1963 TAMELESS TIGER. I HOPE THIS WILL CLARIFY OWNERSHIP."

70CitrusZ · #10 10-24-2005, 11:13 PM

If Arnies story is true, then that ebay seller is openly engaging in a fraudulent act.
As such, he should be dealt with as a criminal.
I hope he realises that in jail he can't spend his stolen money even if he could keep it.

Even IF he did have a mechanics lien it would be for the truck, and to have that he would need a signed (by arnie) workorder for the car or the truck.
Even then he is only allowed to sell it for what he is owed for work done in his shop.

If I were Arnie, I would simply report it stolen, and let the authorities rain on bubba's parade.

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