1969 Camaro ZL-1 #51

[StealthBird]

Apologies if this is a rehash, but is this white ZL-1 going to pull the big bucks now that it has the original engine, even though the engine had a "catastrophic failure"? Does anyone know the extent of the engine damage, and what type of repair was made? I thought this car was discussed a couple years ago on this site, but couldn't find the thread.

http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_de...D=CA0810-96534

Just curious... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]

[PeteLeathersac]

The way things read suggests the block consists of original and reproduced sections joined together..

<span style="font-style: italic">&quot;...the block and reproduced section machined to the closest possible tolerances and the two made whole by advanced TIG welding...&quot;</span>

Obviously the original section includes the stamped deck surface but the bigger the better also hopefuly it's larger than the other piece!.

[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]
~ Pete

[al8apex]

&quot; With the real original block now back in the Camaro after almost forty years&quot;

&quot;...and now, of course, the real original ZL1 engine.&quot;

before it only had the ORIGINAL engine, now that ORIGINAL engine is <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic"><span style="text-decoration: underline">REAL</span></span></span>

so, the story tellers before were lying?

[Bob Jenkins]

all that &quot;CAD&quot; work done to the engine and a &quot;Caution Fan&quot; decal?
really?

[JIM]

Look Closely the Engine bay shot is from an orange or red car not that car !!!!!!

Jim

[m22mike]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JIM</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Look Closely the Engine bay shot is from an orange or red car not that car !!!!!!

Jim </div></div>

Good catch.. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]
You can make out the right fender to fire wall attach point, to bad for the buyer, now he has to come up with his own &quot;Caution fan sticker&quot;... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/crazy.gif[/img]

[Charley Lillard]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: al8apex</div><div class="ubbcode-body">&quot; With the real original block now back in the Camaro after almost forty years&quot;

&quot;...and now, of course, the real original ZL1 engine.&quot;

before it only had the ORIGINAL engine, now that ORIGINAL engine is <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic"><span style="text-decoration: underline">REAL</span></span></span>

so, the story tellers before were lying? </div></div>

They believed they had the orig block when it was selling at Barrett-Jackson. A SYC member had a block that was acquired from Lamar and were told it was from # 51. I put Reggie and the member together, the block was bought and repaired. At Barrett-Jackson a attorney called and said he had a client that had the orig block and that he had bought it from Lamar in the 1970's. Reggie then stopped the sale of the car to sort it out. He called Lamar and Lamar said he had several blocks for the car that GM had given him. He also said he still had the orig. one in his shop. Reggie then bought and repaired that one. He as spent a ton of dough trying to do the right thing. If there is any fault it is with Lamar..

[sYc]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: al8apex</div><div class="ubbcode-body">&quot; With the real original block now back in the Camaro after almost forty years&quot;

&quot;...and now, of course, the real original ZL1 engine.&quot;

before it only had the ORIGINAL engine, now that ORIGINAL engine is <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic"><span style="text-decoration: underline">REAL</span></span></span>

so, the story tellers before were lying? </div></div>

They believed they had the orig block when it was selling at Barrett-Jackson.<span style="color: #FF6666"> A SYC member had a block that was acquired from Lamar and were told it was from # 51. </span>I put Reggie and the member together, the block was bought and repaired. At Barrett-Jackson <span style="color: #FF6666">a attorney called and said he had a client that had the orig block and that he had bought it from Lamar in the 1970's.</span> Reggie then stopped the sale of the car to sort it out. <span style="color: #FF0000">He called Lamar and Lamar said he had several blocks for the car that GM had given him. He also said he still had the orig. one in his shop.</span> Reggie then bought and repaired that one. He as spent a ton of dough trying to do the right thing. If there is any fault it is with Lamar.. </div></div>

Wow...so who's on first? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif[/img]

[396L35]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sYc</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Wow...so who's on first? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif[/img] </div></div>

Albert Pujols!!!!

[StealthBird]

Charley, let me recap your information....

- Reggie had #51 since the mid 1990's. He buys what he thinks is the original block from an SYC member, who says it was bought from Lamar. Then he puts the car up on the B-J block in 2004.

- An attorney calls and says Reggie's car does not have the original block. The true original block is still in Lamar's shop, but it is seriously damaged.

- Reggie pulls the car from the B-J auction as bidding stalls at $600K.

- Reggie buys the original damaged block from Lamar, spends a ton of money repairing it, and that's what we see today going to 2010 Mecum.

- Reggie holds the all-time strike out record at 2,597 [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img]