"Mystery" Chevelle LS-6 in NEW Muscle Car Review???

[CamarosRus]

Regarding the Hugger Orange 1970 SS Chevelle LS-6 on the cover of the NEW (and last?) Muscle Car Review......I've been under the impression that ALL 1970 Chevelle LS-6's & L-78's as well as 1970 L-78 Camaros came with A.I.R. "Smog" regardless of what state sold or what plant built....If it had the solid lifter high compression motor it got smog (including the 1970 Z-28)......can someone offer any reason why the "mystery" all-original car doesn't have smog.....OR educate me on the entire subject....Thanks,
Chuck Sharin/Seattle/[email protected]

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Chuck;
I thought it was supposed to have smog as well, and I thought the water pump was a replacement with the reinforcement ribs??
M

[Charley Lillard]

Maybe because it's just a Magazine article.. Chuck just wants that Air Cleaner....

[Mr70]

I was wondering when this car would come up.
Nothing Mysterious,it is not a full correct restoration.The previous owner didn't do a Frame off and didn't put all the details into the engine.You are right Chuck,it should have A.I.R. on the engine.It shouldn't have those Spark plug heat shields.It is definately a Monaco Orange paint code,it is the same as Jeffs COPO Chevelle code.
That car was floating around here in Ill. for along time.Volo,NIAB,then Midwest Auto Exchange.
All asking for 50-55K,until they found one.
I got alot of pictures of it as well as the buildsheet.It does have some interesting quirks on the buildsheet,but not the beat quality resto.No regrets passing this one up.



[Edited by mr70 (11-03-2001 at 07:30 AM).]

[Belair62]

Wow...that one made all 3 of our local establishments ? Smog setup isn't terribly expensive but it reall caps off the engine compartment...even though it was probably the first thing torn off the car.

[Charley Lillard]

Picky Picky Picky............

[redeuce]

Just to set the record straight. The car did not "float" around for a long time.The car was purchased by Tony down south. I sold it to a family near Chicago. They were not using the car, so decided to sell it. They consigned it at Midwest for a short period of time, it didn't sell, then contacted us, and we bought it back. We then sold it to Doug Young, a collector in Florida, who did a complete body off on the car before Tom Shaw did the article. The build sheet clearly states Monaco Orange, not Hugger. Also the car probably has more documentation than anything you "experts" have on your cars. In addition to all the factory paperwork, there was a notebook in which every oil change, tune up, part replacement, etc, was logged. Whoever the "expert" forum leader is, feel free to call me anytime at 847 526 5950 to discuss this. I probably already know you, but you wouldn't have the nuts to admit it to me. To Tom Clary- I have heard periodically that your boys like to bash people. I've talked to you personally on the phone-you are a good and well informed car person. Try to keep you slanderous "experts" on a leash- this whole thread is nothing but rumor, lies, and a big hoopla about heat shields. Why don't you guys get a life?
Randy

I might be stepping on your toes here, but you kinda asked for it. I really didn't find the thread to be "slanderous," as "slanderous" is spoken not written. If you want to use the correct term, it is "libel." In any event it was neither, as it was really a discussion more about '70 RPO's than anything else. Also when you go out on a limb and say that anything is the definitive example, whether concourse correct or the most documentation, you should really be able to back it up. While the car in question, is a nice looking car, it is not correct. It is well documented that LS6's used a smog setup, and I have never seen nor heard of one using spark plug heat shields. When someone spouts off about their cars correctness, and its' documentation then displays a car with these very obvious faults it makes you wonder what else is incorrect. As much as Mr. 70 (Rick P.) and myself disagree on certain issues I would like to publically say that he is one of the guys I would ask if I had a question on a Chevelle, especially a '70. The guy knows his stuff.
BTW...I can be emailed if you like...

[qwerty]

I happen to own the mystery car you guys seem to be such experts on. It's true the heat sheilds are not correct, and no I did not spend the money on replacing the missing smog equipment, but the car is in new condition mechanically and cosmetically and aside from the minor details you anal retentive concourse types are complaining about the car is mostly correct. I did not buy or restore the car to impress those of you that go to shows and then complain about everyones cars, when 9 out of 10 times the crap in your garage sucks even worse. I bought the car because I appreciated it for what it was and the fact that is wasn't like every other LS6 out there.

The car was never represented as a concours car in the article or otherwise. It is driven reguarly and as far as I can tell, nobody out there has one that is like it. The docs to back up the history of the car are impecable and undisputable.

As far as the "mystery" part of the magazine article, you guys need to lighten up. Tom Shaw asked me to be in the magazine because of a last minute no show of a different car and needed something out of the ordinary to fill in for a factory freaks theme. As far as the true color, the notes on the build sheet say 926-99616 Orange acrylic Laquer so you tell me.

As far as the price I am asking for the car, if you saw the documentation, the amount of new parts on the car the spotless undercarage and engine compartment,the new wiring , interior, dash etc. and put it next to a lot of the junk that I see out there for sale everyday,I don't think I'm to far out of line. Before you start running down someones car based on it's condition you should really know all the facts.

Randy and NICAB have sold me multiple cars and they have been great to deal with. As for the condition of the car as it "drifted around" until it was pawned off on me, you are right that it was a ratty restoration, but if you reread the article it clearly does state that when I got it from NICAB it needed some work.

Finally, just to let you know, I'm not some lightweight idiot that Tony and Randy took for a ride. I have owned dozens of cars over the years and currently have a Alpine White 70 Hemi Superbird 4 speed console car with 16k miles that has a complete matching numbers drivetrain, carbs, starter, both jacks etc.and is 99.9% original restored and has complete paperwork. So you concours guys that will be at the Mopar Nats in columbus in a couple of weeks can come see it under the tent. If it makes you feel better, you can tell me how bad my Chevelle is to my face and I'll be happy to show you my Superbird and pictures of my MSO Earnhart Camaro with 77 miles and a signed dash when your done.

For those of you that were defending my car or apreciating it for what it is, and you know who you are... thanks.
Doug Young

[69rsss350]

Well said, Doug! Glad you came to speak for yourself and your car!