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10-02-2003, 01:10 PM
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"BLACK WIDOW"
Does anyone have any info on the 57' fulie factory race cars that were nicknamed "BLACK WIDOW"?
The guy says the car has 283 fulie/4-spd/ and 6 lug axles???? from the factory. Am I getting a BS story on this car before I make him an offer? Thanks Eric [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif[/img] 
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10-02-2003, 01:57 PM
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Re: "BLACK WIDOW"
Yes there were Black Widows like described but there are a bunch of Fakes out there so look for paperwork or Price it accordingly.
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10-02-2003, 02:03 PM
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Re: "BLACK WIDOW"
Lillard's right...LOTS of clones out there. They used the 150 "businessman coupe", which meant no back seat, no roll down windows, and I *think* the 3 speed was standard. They were built for NASCAR. Very light, like under 3200 pounds.
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10-02-2003, 02:19 PM
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Re: "BLACK WIDOW"
Again..going strictly from memory at the moment; I think they were 4 speed cars. As I recall that's the only 4 speed passenger car for '57. Four gears were available in the Corvette for '57 but not in the sedans. Yes they did have six lug wheels front and rear. I believe they used a 3/4 ton truck rear axle and used the six lug hubs and brake drums on front for extra stopping power. They also used the 'bucket' seat from the sedan delivery.
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10-02-2003, 02:56 PM
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Re: "BLACK WIDOW"
I could have sworn they were all 3 on the tree cars... I've read articles on them before and I could almost swear I remember the shift being on the column. I'll look on this more later.
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10-02-2003, 09:06 PM
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Re: "BLACK WIDOW"
Did you catch the "150" ragtop? I was into cars then and never saw one?
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10-02-2003, 04:30 PM
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Re: "BLACK WIDOW"
Thanks guys for all the info and warnings about fakes ( Charley and Rob ).
I will let you know how the car checks out and whether or not I get it. Where did you guys learn so much about so many different musclecars? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif[/img] You are my new heroes. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif[/img] Thanks again. Eric
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10-02-2003, 04:34 PM
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Re: "BLACK WIDOW"
check out this link. I was right about the column shifter
http://community-1.webtv.net/stevela...ASCARCHAMPION/
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10-02-2003, 07:28 PM
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Re: "BLACK WIDOW"
I stand corrected! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif[/img] If I had read a little further on the "57 Heaven" site I would have seen their notes about the 3 speed trannys too. I guess the 4-speed deal was just a combination of poor memory and wishful thinking on my part!
I did remember that NASCAR outlawed the F.I. early on and that the cars ran with single four barrels. Sure would like to see one done as a 270 HP though! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] Dennis
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10-02-2003, 07:57 PM
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Re: "BLACK WIDOW"
There is a great photo and info article on a FI -'57 Black Widow in Legend Series Musclecars 1989---I can't bring it up on screen ,but if someone wanted the article, I could mail it to them,and maybe they could post it?.This one is the 283hp version of the FI 283.----------JoeG
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