Silver ZL1 at Future Classics? - Page 5

T Billigen · #41 03-20-2002, 11:28 AM

The best thing to do is not buy a car at one of these places no matter what the documentation is, once they get a bad reputation it will ruin the value of the car down the road. When you try to sell the car and a prospective buyer finds you bought it at a "classic car dealer" they may tend to shy away, I know I would! Try to buy a car off a private owner if you can or buy a car that you can trace the origin, if it needs restoration get it done by a reputable restorer, which there are a couple that frequent this site.(my opion)

**Steve Shauger** · #42 03-20-2002, 12:33 PM

I wonder what the original protecto plate for the cloned L89 convertible is worth. It documents the car as a 327 210 hp powerglide car with a 307 non posi rear car. Mint condition all #'s matching. Seriously, if someone needs it, I may be able to get you in contact with the person that has it.

Norm reynolds · #43 03-20-2002, 01:32 PM

T Billigen is right just heard the camaro internet 3/16/02 show Jerry Mac Neish was on and said that a guy in Cal bought a car from a dealer in new jersey that has changed names and HAS a history of selling fraudulent cars he went on to say that that new owner did not have Jerry look at the car before he bought the car when he got the car the cars motor did not run right the brakes did not work and all the numbers were played with.now it will cost more money for a law sute than Jery whould charge to look at it in the first place he said that people should do there home work before looking to buying a car. show was great
Norm

**Steve Shauger** · #44 03-20-2002, 02:28 PM

I believe the car was sold at Atlantic was sold by the owner not the dealer. The level at which the car was cloned, would make it virtually impossible to detect. Broach mark and stamping fonts are reproduced perfectly now. The corvette people now call restamped blocks "restoration blocks". I doubt the "experts" could have detected this restamp...they have been fooled before!

Norm reynolds · #45 03-20-2002, 03:08 PM

The car that Jerry Mac Neish was sold at a dealer not atlantic city he stated thet the restamped was very very poor

**Steve Shauger** · #46 03-20-2002, 03:22 PM

That is probably the 68 z which has been discussed in another thread.I believe it is advertise on cars on line as "alert# matching"

[Edited by paceme (03-20-2002 at 10:22 AM).]

Norm reynolds · #47 03-20-2002, 04:08 PM

yes paceme I think that is the car that they were talking about what scares me as the price of these cars gos up how far will people go to clone a car? will get to the point where you just can not tell if its real or a clone they will get better in restamping remanufacture trim tags pop plates
the only wat to stop it is to list all known vin numbers and if they go as far to try to remanufacture a vin plate then they will have gone to far and be shut down and go to jail end of story any one who sells fraudulent cars gives the hobby a black eye
as for me its about the love of these cars and not so much about the money
Norm

DjD · #48 03-20-2002, 04:27 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="">quote:</font><HR> Orig posted by Speedrx:
Has everyone seen this regarding Future Classics?

http://www.cars-on-line.com/68chev5581.html

Buyer Beware of this dealer! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I believe this is the car Jerry spoke of.

Dennis

Rat_Pack · #49 03-20-2002, 07:40 PM

That is the car. Very poor stampings on the engine and trans, especially the trans. The word is out on this board and just about everywhere to stay away from that dealer. Word of mouth is either your best or worst advertisement.....................RatPack......... .....

Muscle Car Jon · #50 03-20-2002, 09:07 PM

I will be going to Future Classics this weekend now that everyone is talking about them again. I have to see what they have new. I have to admit, they do get some good looking cars there. CHUCK, I will check out the 70 Camaro L78 car you were asking about. I'll let you know. I am about an 45min-1 hour from them so its not a big ride.
Has anyone seen some of the stuff at that TRM Classic's place? I called on a car they had recently. It was a Dusk Blue X22 SS car that he was "making" into an RS. He sent me pictures and the car didn't even have the correct RS taillights and back up lights. The engine compartment was a horror show. He also said he will send me a picture of the under side after he is done "blacking it out". He wanted high $20's for a half assed restoration with a non-original motor. That is frightning. Now that sounds like a quick fix and sell job to me! I just noticed that he still has the car but now took the RS package back off and is selling it as a COPO clone. I wish I can just "black out" the under side of my cars and get high $20's! WOW! Talk about trying to make a buck! OH, and Hello Paul, Welcome! - Jon

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