1970 gto judge ram air IV

[camarojoe]

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For sure. If it's on My Classic Car, It MUST be accurate.

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[DaJudge]

Oh I am sorry that a television story that I did not even know about backed up what I was discussing. Thank God that the PHS documents exist for Pontiac Enthusiasts and that Jim Mattison cannot be bought off. Because if he did not exist there would be a lot of Ram Air V GTO's around bringing high dollars like some of the Super Cars out there. I can't wait for the fire sale of supposed big block Chevy's and Super cars when the Chevy docs are available.

I bet a lot of people are lobbying against these documents to be released to the public. I bet it will be like the old Heinz Ketchup commericials. Anticipation , it's making me wait; I hope I don't lose my shirt on a fake!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]

All I know is that my RA IV Judge is the real deal all original paperwork , all numbers match , all original sheet metal and did I forget to mention, purchased from the original owner. Cars with paperwork, true stories and a documented history are what bring the bucks for any make, leave the mythology to the Greeks.

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[DaJudge]

Cool find thos e 455 HO decals are used on 71 and 72 GTO's with the 455 HO option as well as 71 Judges. The RA IV decals can be used on 69 to 70 GTO's, Trans Ams nver had any decals installed on the shaker units or the forward scoops on the 69 -70 model years. What kind of intake is that and is it set up for fuel injection ?

[442w30]

Astock, still a bettin' man? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif[/img]

[Astock]

Someone posted "talk is cheap." How cheap? $5000 cheap? Or would you like to go more?

I will send my end to Charlie, Belair, or Sixtiesmuscle whenever. Who's on?

[Astock]

Hey Zeus,
Don't sign off yet.You've been doing a pretty good job of giving the Pontiac community a black eye with your embarrassing posts.I think it's time for you to step up to the plate.
Just think,you'll get your chance to show me where to move the decimal point for the g80 430 gears.

[woodnnn]

none,the R A 5 was never a production gto.this was only added by dealers or owners.the heads and intake could be bought over the counter.but never came factory.royal pontiac built a few RA5 [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif[/img] cars but there again after market.

[Astock]

Wood
I'm confused by your post.Are you putting up your money or just doing more talking. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsdown.gif[/img]

[Fhakya]

Wow, cool thread (I live for this sh*t)! I'm going to agree w/ Belair62 and say YES...these dealers (Knafel/Royal) could get anything they wanted as far as Pontiac's were concerned. But, I'm going to embelish on his statement and say that they could get access to the limited amount of RA-V "crate" engines to perform the conversion if they wanted to. JoeG brought an excellent point to the table. When I 1st saw that segment I nearly jumped up off my soap-box screaming "They never installed a RA-V from the FACTORY". They went on to explain what's in the text of the web page and I could go back to drinking my Yoo-hoo with my previous beliefs intact. The only RA-5 dealer conversion that I know of (personally) is the blue (turquoise)/white Royal 69 car. That's not to say that other conversions werent't built by dealers 'after the assy. line' but I'd help back 442W30 w/ $500 on the 5K wager that 'AStock's car is not a production line car. BTW, I'm one of 'kids' on this board so I could be wrong...but I'll back this belief w/ cash.
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When I was 12 I won a $100 bet w/ my step father that they did indeed build a FI 283/283 57 Chevy...I'm ready for more!

-Mark Holman
PS Anyone wanna buy a factory built LS-7 Chevelle?

[DaJudge]

ASTOCK here is an excerpt from the Pontiac GTO Restoration Guide. Page 381. " Finally, the Ram Air IV Super Duty: Research indicates that approximately seventy of these engines may have been released for public consumption in 1970. The Ram Air IV Super Duty consisted of a Ram Air V bottom end and Ram Air IV heads, intake manifold, and carburetion. No Ram Air V engines were released from the factory for public consumption, although it was possible to order all the necessary Ram Air V components over the counter. Occassionally a Ram AIr V will turn up, but it was not built on the assembly line for sale in a 1970 GTO. Evidence also indicates the installation of a few RA IV SD engines in 1970 Trans Ams. "

Read my previous posts if any dealer would have access to a RA V engine it would be Knafel or Royal. It was dealer installed and many people will back that up.

The Ram Air V was a counter motor. Unless someone has a specified code on a legitimate build sheet or PHS that states RA V then I will stand by my statments.

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