69 daytona yellow b/m camaro

[Dan 68 Chevy II]

Talked to the owner when it was for sale in a local auto trader months ago,sounded very sincere and was contemplating getting it verified by Joel Rosen.Obviously he verified the car.

[bowtie3168]

Kevin is right, not all Camaros coming from Baldwin Chevrolet were made into Motion Supercars. I am sure that Baldwin Chevrolet probably sold a 10 to 1 (or many more) Motion Supercar to stock production Camaro ratio. Remember conversions by Joel Rosen did NOT come cheap! Selling cars like the Motion cars was a real attraction for Baldwin Chevrolet. Get the people in to look at the top of the line car and switch them into another car. Think about how many young kids came in and wanted a "Phase III" and could not afford it or the insurance. Just think of a salesman saying 'well we cannot get you financed for a "Phase III" but we can get you into a SS350, and you can convert it later after you finish your payments.' Living local to the area I have heard of many Motion conversions done after the car was already "on the road".

Andrew

[Jeff H]

Speaking of Baldwin Motion Camaros, I came across this car while searching around today. I'll paste in the link, but I know it won't work as a shortcut so you'll need to cut and paste it yourself.
http://www.wwwheels.com/cfapps/ascar.cfm?ID=1549315

[TwoBryans]

jeff h
that's a cool piece of history. is that just a baldwin car or a b/m car? either way it's still a cool car to have if it's authentic.

[GMH454]

As I don't think any two motion cars were the same, (Joel was always changing his mind on the stripes) and the option list of transplant parts was not always the same I don't think such a car could ever be effectivley restored without substantial input from photos, Joels memory ?,etc, even if you could find an invoice.
Also didn't the axle ratios vary enormously

[Dan 68 Chevy II]

Andrew,
I see were speculateing on what Baldwin Chevrolet salesmen said to prospector buyers.I speculate that there was Baldwin Auto Company which was the performance side of Baldwin Chevrolet for doing operations with Joel Rosen of Motion Performance and Baldwin Chevrolet for your everday average Joe,probably maybe 2 separate corporations for say liability purposes.What we need is maybe say a saleman or finance guy from Baldwin Chevrolet or better yet Joel Rosen himself to visit us so we don"t need to speculate.I guess for now we can all speculate,if it fills good speculate.

[bowtie3168]

Dan,
I can speculate on this because I have worked at 6 different dealerships one of them a Chevrolet store that has been in buisness for 55 years.I studied Automotive Marketing in college (Northwood University,a dealership management school). I live 1 hour from where Baldwin Chevrolet was. A gentleman that I work with bought a car there and lives five minutes from the location. Many racers that I know from the track purchased cars from Motion and know Joel Rosen. Motion Performance was a seperate buisness from Baldwin Chevrolet and Motion continued to produce cars long after Baldwin Chevy went our of buisness. Dan that is how a dealership works. Advertise the coolest hippest car, get the people in, and put them into what you can. Baldwin Chevrolet sold many more 350 4speed Camaros and Novas than they did Phase III Supercars.

Andrew

[Edited by bowtie3168 (08-01-2001 at 01:32 PM).]