69 Nova Big Blocks

[sixtiesmuscle]

No problem with an asterisk as far as I'm concerned. I still would like to know WHERE it was converted. You keep dancing around that simple question. "Employed by Yenko"? Who cares??
Let me say that Brian's car is a really neat piece no matter what. Let the notorized facts speak for themselves. My objection is to the sYc declaring this car to be a 427 Yenko Nova based on hearsay. Putting the stamp on a car based on what you have disclosed is inappropriate,and, premature. Of course that's just MY opinion. I know you are offended when the subject turns to the monetary aspects of our hobby, but, consider the affect your official edict would have on this one car. From 50 to 250 with the stroke of a key?

I am all for anyone who is fortunate to experience a windfall discovery. I hope it is what you have declared. But since you declared it based on what facts were available, it deserves to be questioned, no matter who you are. If the solid proof usually expected on this site is forthcoming that creates a consensus that this car is truly "a 427 Yenko Nova", not just a Nova sold at Yenko that later had a 427 installed somewhere at sometime, I will apologize until I'm blue in the face.

[copolocater]

Tom if it is Warren who is documenting Brians car.I'm saying wrong.I spoke to Warren and can tell you the documentation he has.I have a phone record of the day the phone call was made.I can even tell you the color Brians car was originally.All from Warren.He spoke of the car and its history in detail.As I stated before I asked the question as to the 427 conversion and his answer was no.He can state if he does that he doesn't know me but he does.I have sent a few people to purchase their original paperwork including Mr. Cliff Ernst.I am not in any way destroying the reputation of Warren but in this case somebodys wrong.The people on this board know my reputation and I am in no means perfect but in this situation I am adamit.

[sYc]

Tim, I have just recieved word from from a friend of yours, who just spoke with Warren. He did indeed install a 427 in the car, at later date. Tom

[sYc]

Mike; First of all, I am flattered, but find it hard to believe that my opinion can influence the price of a supercar 5 fold. To me, that is set by the buying public. Sort of like the Douglass cars. Second of all, I do not know where the car was converted. I do know for a fact that the car was sold new at Yenko and have no reason to believe that Warren did not install a 427 in the car, at a later date. Once again, where? I do not know, maybe at his shop, maybe at one of Yenko's shops? Now, to me listing the car as a 427 Yenko Nova. I will tell you, and the rest of the board, what I told Brian, which is how I view the car. If you, or anyone else disagrees, that is fine, I respect your opinion. To me, it is a 427 Yenko Nova, but with a notation, (maybe *) stating that the car was sold new as a L-78, special order paint car. Later is recieved a L-88 427, installed by a Yenko mechanic. No more, no less. As I posted earlier, there is a Nova listed on "the list" that no one has challenged (yet) that came with the original 396, but with 3 deuces. I consider it a supercar as well, with a notation like Brian's. ONCE AGAIN, JUST MY OPINION. Tom

[copolocater]

Tom you spoke to Warren and Warren told you the transplant was not performed by the Yenko dealership.It was performed by him a couple years later.This vehicle is nothing else but a 396/375 hp. nova.You by your post have led alot of people and others who would read the the post to believe the car was converted at yenko by a yenko employee and charged to the customer by yenko.I'm not here to trash you or Brians car.But you being the administrator and Brian having the reputation he has,people will tend to accept your word.Warren has spoken on this subject and I stand by my previous conversation with him.

[sYc]

BOY!!! What a fool I am. If my opinion is as valuable as everyone has said, I should be charging for it. Like Joel and Vince. And here all this time I have been on the spending side of things, not receiving. Tom

[sixtiesmuscle]

Tom, I can assume that I am the one you said confirmed with Warren that he installed a 427 in the car. The main crux of the distinction between what we on this site would call an official "427 Yenko Nova" and the car we're discussing is that the 427 was installed "sometime" [late 1970] later, and, NOT at Yenko. That is all I think most want to know, and, that is what Warren said.

When you speak as sYc, people listen, and, take what you say as the official Yenko Sportscar Club position. That carries a lot of weight, and, if it goes against what the commonly accepted position of the membership has been, I feel it appropriate to challange the statement.

Just for the record, if the statement that the syc would list this car as a 427 Yenko Nova had not been printed, I wouldn't have said a word. Semantics yes, but, we've spent countless hours trying to come to agreement on the accuracy of a single word or asterisk. I've said my peace. No hard feelings. [?]

[Unreal]

So if Warren installs a 427 in my car, would it be a Yenko, (with an asterisk)? [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

[Stefano]

Brian's Nova is a very cool, exquisitely executed car. There was a bit of confusion as to what it actually was ,at the reunion. 1)A 427 Yenko Conversion sold new as such, 2)A non (never got) converted L78 Yenko Super Car ,3) An L78 Nova which had a transplant performed sometime after it was sold new.

BTW cool stinger hood. Did Warren install that as well?

I believe the questions posed on this thread are important as to how any car is veiwed by sYc and its membership.(exclusive of monetary judgements).

The non 427, but three deuce conversion Nova sounds like a no questions Super Car to me (bar the value judgement compared to a full 427 conversion).

Its a Yenko Chevy dealership Converted car, to some degree and sold it to the public as such.

Now for a Hypothetical scenario: If a "friend" were to have a Fully documented Nickey Chevrolet Ordered and sold 19701/2 Z28, which had an aftermarket intake, rejetted carb, magneto ignition, 4.56 ring and pinion, electric fuel pump and regulator, lakewood slapper Bars added prior to delivery to the customer, would this be considered a Super Car.

Furthermore: If one of the original Nickey Mechanics were to install an L88 Big Block in it sometime later, would this now be considered a Big Block Nickey Conversion.

In which guise could it be shown at the Reunion as a true Super Car whether small block, big block or even represented as such at all?

I am in no way trying to instigate, just trying to clarify. Thanks to all for the Forum to do so.

[sYc]

Unreal, If documentation shows it as being sold new by Yenko Chevrolet, then by all means it is a Yenko, as is ANY car sold there. Even I can not change that. Tom