69 Z28 Sold for $112,000

[MosportGreen66]

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Sold in 2003 for $49,680 with NO docs.

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I was just going to make a comment. $50K for a "numbers matching" LS6 Convertible? Blue must have done that Chevelle justice.

[Stuart Adams]

Man there is soooo much negativity in the hobby now that these cars are bringing big bucks - greed and money bring all the BS to the surface. Man between the fakes, coverups, deception, lies ,etc. it's sad that the hobby is coming to this. Its great that you guys have the knowledge to keep these guys somewhat in check...

[gemleeus]

i understand what you are saying, i have recently come into the market looking to purchase a nice original muscle car. there are many crooks out there, but i have found so many nice, honest folks also in my search for the right car, i'am in the market for rare z cars or copo's. if you are going to spend that kind of many on a classic car you should do your homework to keep from getting burned, if you don't have any knowledge then hire a professional to check car for you, whats $400.00-$1000.00 to protect your investment? i'm buying for enjoyment and investment purpose. i can recall as a little boy watching a superbird go down the street and thinking i'm going to have one of those someday.

[Jeff H]

Remember, the crossram setup was an over the counter option so it would never be considered original equipment. Did the yellow JL8 crossram car have any documentation with it? And I mean real documentation, not fake stuff like the p-o-p that was with the 68 L89 car.

[gemleeus]

i understand the crossram was not factory installed, dealer option only. i thought i recall them saying that it was dealer installed? i guess they had proof of that? i think the car had "Q" code axle? and even if it didn't technology today could make it a Q coded axle if they wanted to go to that extreme. also, isn't an aftermarket crossram produced for the z? i don't really know, thats why i joined to find out from experts. hey, by the way your jl8 for sale?

[Jeff H]

The JL8 rear axle codes begin with "Q" so that does have some meaning. My car has the 3.73 rear which is the "QX" code. The GM crossram was an over the counter option so saying "dealer installed" doesn't really mean much since it wouldn't be original to the car. There are several aftermarket crossram's(Offenhauser, Edelbrock) with the Offy being very similar to the GM but with obvious differences. My car will probably be for sale some day, but right now it's still in the middle of the restoration. I've got the original protect-o-plate and broadcast sheet with it as well as matching #'s. One other thing, GM made some fiberglass crossram cowl induction hoods(less than 100) and I thought that yellow car had one of the GM hoods like I have. That will increase the value as well.

[firstgenaddict]

It used to be if a car was fake it was fairly easy to spot. But the problem now is there are so many crooks who know what they are doing ...and so many speculators willing to BLOW money on undocumented cars or cars with Quasi-documentation for fear of missing the "Big One" that real cars with real documentation go unnoticed because most owners do not have the money or the notion to take the cars BJ. By the way BJ researches in order to determine that the cars are what the owner says yet with their lack of overall knowledge about these cars and obvious lack of research as to the documentation they have done nothing good for the hobby. The people on this forum have done more than anyone to advance the knowledge of these cars and make the determinations as to their authenticity. Sorry had to vent on this....