Short of Paying Joel for confirmation....

[skierkaj]

Alright, I think we're on the same page now. Yes indeed, if it was almost certain that this car was a Motion modified street machine, It would be worth the documentation. Like you said, $20,000 to $150,000 is quite a significant price jump, and in this case, I believe the $1500 would be well worth it.

I know what you mean about the waste in hindsight, I think I spent too much on my "Motion" valve covers for my camaro. I knew they weren't real, but I thought it was worth it. I come to find out that the covers themselves are probably only worth $70, which means I paid too much for that little emblem that's on them; and it's not even correct! That's enough said, as I think I don't wanna disclose how much I paid for em! Here's a pic of the covers . . .

[Jeff H]

What is the trim tag information on the car? Does anyone know if Joel ordered SS396 or SS350 cars and did the 427 swap or would he order a base 6 cyl car to do the 427 swap? He already said he did not know about the COPO program so that can be ruled out.

[427TJ]

I assume that Motion would happily convert any car brought to them. I was part of the COPO/Motion thread and someone said that the COPO-appearing '69 Camaro SS 427 in that thread could have been a 6-cylinder before conversion. It seems silly to order a 6-cylinder '69 Camaro and then have to add not just the 427 but a tranny and 12-bolt, etc., but it could have happened.

I think the most common route was to order an L78 Super Sport car through Baldwin Chevrolet (with whatever options you chose) and then Baldwin would deliver it to Motion for the conversion. You then took delivery of the converted car at Baldwin.

[4MyChevelles]

Now from what i heard from a friend about the 1500.00 fee to Joel is that after 6 months and more like 6 thousand dollars he finaly got his Motion Vette certified and I don't want to give to many details about the car and get anyone in trouble but it's just what i heard

[AutoInsane]

Well I think there should be further investigation into the facts that would lead one to think this is indeed a Motion car. What other indicators would point to this being a Motion car besides a 427 and a fiberglass L-88 hood and this listed in the original post?:

"It has had side pipes, ansons, cragers, rear window louvers, chrome traction bars, shock extenders, and mallory ignition to name a few parts"

I do indeed hope this is a Motion car but it seems like you need more concrete proof that what you have now. It would seem all of the modifications to the car could have been done by anyone along the way. You might send Kevin (Supercars) and e-mail. He is a very nice person and had an very good comprehension of what a Motion car should have.

Gd luck,

Bill O'Brien

[ralfsyenko]

what is joels current e-mail.

[427TJ]

I have a soft-spot for Cal Custom big-block Chevy valve covers. I made an impulse buy on eBay for a pair that had minor repairs and I paid $30. Then the seller nailed me for an additional $20 for shipping (D'OH!) and I felt really dumb. I just bought another near-mint set for $75 with the PCV/breather holes not punched out. Yep, an additional $25 shipping hit made them $100. (Double D'OH!) I kept watching them on eBay and several more sets went into the 100-dollar range so I felt better.

Yes, I know, I could buy them all day long for less than $25 at any swap meet so save your breath guys. I love repeating my mistakes on eBay.