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Old 10-09-2002, 12:51 PM
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Default Re: 1966 Yenko Stinger for sale

Joe, have you not been reading this post? It is not only the stripes that has been of concern but the whole package and the fact that these cars were sold new as Yenko Camaros. Lets not get into more bashing of this topic. <ul type="square"> <font color="green"> Does Ed C. say that Yenko made white Yenko Camaros? Yenko only used 6 colors and white was not one of them.
This looks like false advertising to me.[/list]</font color>
The color issue is what makes these cars unique, they were not limited to the six colors that Yenko ordered because Jack Douglass circumvented the system. White is a correct color for a Yenko Camaro sold new at Jack Douglass Chevrolet. As far as false advertising, there is nothing stated that is not true to the car. Now I too was surprised about the hockey stick stripes, but hey they look good. So do the Yenko stripes on the other white car in Florida.

It sounds like from replies last night that the consensus is a Jack Douglass built Yenko is a Yenko. Great to see that this discussion will end soon?............... [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/tongue.gif[/img]

Stefano, if this does not sell you can send it down here and I will be glad to keep it for you until first right of refusal, just tell your lawyers where it is at.. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img]...................RatPack.......................


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Old 10-09-2002, 02:07 PM
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Stefano,
I had looked at this car when it was for sale in WI.The seller told me it was a Douglas copo.He also told me it was never striped as a Yenko.How can you be so sure he is wrong?
If Don sold them 22 stripe sets did some get used on Chevelles?Do you think the copos sold with out stripes were Douglas/Yenkos?Earl
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Old 10-09-2002, 02:33 PM
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You guys have got to be kidding me.
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Old 10-09-2002, 04:03 PM
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That's the point who's kidding who?
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Old 10-09-2002, 04:10 PM
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Default Re: 1966 Yenko Stinger for sale

Here we go again, I spoke to Dana on several occassions, in order to modify the info. on his site .It is not meant to decieve and will hopefully be adjusted very soon.

There is a great deal of work involved with setting up one of these auctions and he and his crew are working literally around the clock.

Anyone who chooses to bid will have access to all the accurate info. needed prior to the auction.

Out of repect to sYc ,I will refer to the Douglass cars both Camaros and Chevelles per the instructions on this site and if sYc would like to remove the link to the Mecum site, I will not have a problem with it.

I will however not refer to any of these special cars as anything less than what they are, to please anyone.

I have secured an unbiased ,professional legal rendered opinion on the topic. (no ,I will not disclose it, get your own or purchase the car it goes with the car.)

I have stated on many occassions that my Dover White Yenko was restored and presented as a Berger Car per the info Vince Emme provided to the previous owner. I have only cleaned it up, added a few items original to the car and enjoyed it for approx. 1,000 miles this past summer.

They didn't even have any idea that it was a Jack Douglass Car at the time. It was only once an NICB report was run that it was known to have been delivered to Jack Douglass Chevrolet.

Earl,
I don't mind the question unless you qustion the validity of my statements.

I introduced the owner of that car who also happens to have owned numerous other Yenkos to Jack Douglass. He knew nothing of the Douglass COPO*Yenko story untill he heard it first from me and then Jack himself.

It was 100% up to him as what to do with the info. Some people will do anything, even change an original Yenko to aviod controversy(but that is another story)

Jack even commented about how well the stripes matched the scheme of the Dover White/ Black vinyl top cars how he could have sold more than the two he did.

I was the high bidder when he ran the car at auction years ago, as the number of people who new the Douglass story and were present could have been counted on your fingers at the time.

While many may have, I hid nothing from the seller about the Douglass Story , in which Jack says that all his COPOs were sold as Yenkos (save for the one exception which proves the rule and it was a Hugger Orange COPO which Jack wasn't aware of ).

The previous owner had told me on many occassions that it was not one of the Douglass Yenkos simply because Vince Emme had said so and Vince had a list of the "Douglass Yenkos" as well.

That was his arguement to me, and contrary to what Jack Douglass Himself had told the previous owner.

I had looked at the car a few years back, and data based the pertinant numbers, but never needed to search for evidence that the car had Yenko emblems as all were to have been sold that way. I had even resolved not to call this car by its true name untill there was more evidence provided.

ssl78 came with me when I went to pick it up. Since the car has all its original sheet metal but for one door skin, it still maintains all its since filled, body piercings for the Yenko emblems in the correct Douglass location/ fashion and it was ssl78 who pointed this out to me infront of the previous owner who had never even bothered to look and was very surprised.

When the seller Dug out his notes from discussions with prior owners,written by his own hand ,the notes also mentioned that it was striped and badged prior to the first repaint. He had thought that the notes belonged to another one of his prior cars and was surprised to see the info. in his own hand writting from many years ago. (He had this car for some time).

On another note the auction is not a "NO RESERVE" auction and has never been represented as such. None of the cars I am running are listed as NO RESERVE.

Yes they are all really for sale, but must meet my minimun financial objective. If you do not understand this format, don't agree with the way the cars are represented or believe my statements ,then do not bid on the cars. (This is not e-bay)


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Old 10-09-2002, 04:30 PM
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Stefano,
Thanks for your answers to my questions.It is a very nice car.Earl
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Old 10-09-2002, 05:23 PM
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We were voting? [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
I've known about the Douglas cars for about 4-5 years now, after being made aware of them by another member of this board.

I agree that Douglas Yenkos are Yenkos that were authorized by Yenko and built and striped with his consent. The corroborated evidence show that Don and Jack agreed that Jack could order the cars, apply the Yenko striping, and market them as Yenkos.

What is a Yenko anyway? My definition would be: A COPO that was specially decalled as a Yenko and marketed as such. They basically were a marketing ploy for a special model.
The Douglas Yenko cars clearly fit that definition. The car supported the marketing and they were authorized and supported by Yenko. I can't see that it matters if they were striped in PA or IL.
BTW, nice research on the Douglas cars, Stefano.

Attached is a pic of my 69 BB, didn't realize I had a Douglas Yenko til now. But the POP says Georgia??? [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 10-09-2002, 06:51 PM
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Kurt,
You can have the first authorized official Jack Douglass COPO*Yenko Camaro replica! Cool car, what engine?

Can we get an official rendering from CRG on the topic, or maybe a concenssus?
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Old 10-09-2002, 07:00 PM
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Default Re: 1969 Douglas Yenko

Kurt;
QUOTE: "corroborated evidence show that Don and Jack agreed". "The car supported the marketing and they were authorized and supported by Yenko".

What corroberating evidence of an agreement are you referring to? I have yet to see any evidence??

QUOTE: "What is a Yenko anyway? My definition would be:..." I would add to your definition that the car was ordered by and MSO'd to Yenko Chev. just like a Baldwin Motion car was ordered by and MSO'd to Baldwin Chev.




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Old 10-09-2002, 07:15 PM
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We understand the distinction between a Motion Car and a Baldwin /Motion car. They are similar yet different and the sequence of events which seperates the two are not in question.

Evidence can be other than written. Written evidence can also be wrong or misstated or even slanted. This will also apply to vailid business contracts. I would say some of the evidence was emperical.

The market today has established that one is more valuable in a similar situation than the other, but that gap is closing ,as any cars which Joel Rosen built are both desirable and rare and maintain a unique and important part of Super Car History.

Is a Motion car not a Super Car in your eyes because it does not have an MSO from Baldwin. Or a Harrell car from Gibb or Courtesy not a Super car because the MSO was not to Harrell?
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