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I think even though Tom has come off as a bit 'mysterious' (please do not take offense Tom but you haev been) in this discussion Tom, from his Hemmings ad, states he is a retired State Trooper with 17 years in the Fraud Investigation Division and probably knows more about researching cars than all of us combined. Due respect to Tom....
No idea why Tom will not contact Bergy and they can discuss this car. Obviously Bergy is a hell of a stand up guy with no ill agenda. No idea why the two can not share info on this car. Now can we stop being like a bunch of children and act like adults? Bergy is not trying to make this car anything other than what it is or might be. I sure don't think anyone on here is as transparent about what they have in there garage and what it started out as. And he will only state the car being a true sueprcar if he can prove it with documentation.
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I would appreciate if everyone took it down a notch. This site is not about personal attacks period.
Regarding the car I don't (personally) care about affidavits and he said she said stuff. The only thing that will determine the %orig/pedigree of this car is a physical inspection which bergy states will be done and documented. To me that is where the rubber hits the road. The history is interesting and I do commend you for your owner research info. The fact remains that it only tells you so much, and is subjective. Lets please move on and keep this discussion civil or take it off line. Thanks,
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I would like to know about the statement "a huge percentage of my car is 616414".
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: paceme</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would appreciate if everyone took it down a notch. This site is not about personal attacks period.
Regarding the car I don't (personally) care about affidavits and he said she said stuff. The only thing that will determine the %orig/pedigree of this car is a physical inspection which bergy states will be done and documented. To me that is where the rubber hits the road. The history is interesting and I do commend you of your owner search info. The fact remains that it only tells you so much, and is subjective. <span style="font-weight: bold"> Lets please move on and keep this discussion civil or take it off line.</span> Thanks, </div></div> agreed, yet we still get responses like the one above
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![]() Lets please move on and keep this discussion civil or take it off line. [/quote] I hope it stays online. This is quite entertaining.
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Re post #435631, 2nd paragraph: why I will not talk on the phone is because I do not totally trust Bergy, and also because I was asked by Bergy the following in an email, "Do you recall offering to sell the car to anyone after you looked at it?" Well, I never owned the car to sell it; I never offered it for sale as a whole or in an envelope afterwards; I never even knew about the envelope story until this thread came about. When I asked 6 questions about the envelope sale issue, I never received any answers from Bergy. But yet he wants all info from me..not gonna happen now.......and...I think someone is confusing me with someone else and I know exactly why and can prove it, but it will get other people involved and I do not want to go there. The element of trust is missing here and that is why I am mysterious. I'm sorry now that I even offered info in the first place, since it led to personal attacks on me. I'd like to know about the huge percentage also as requested above...BTW: PennDot records only go back 10 years, and from what I was told the microfische was also scuttled.
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Jim (al8apex),
What is wrong with my request? Bergy made the statement that a large percentage of his car is 616414 so its reasonable to ask why he is stating that. Apparently Bergy has found some additional info about the car beyond the things he has listed. If he has not, why would such a statement be made? The whole idea behind this thread is to get to the truth about the car. NONE of my requests have been out of line or unreasonable, period. |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: vfitom</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Re post #435631, 2nd paragraph: why I will not talk on the phone is because I do not totally trust Bergy, and also because I was asked by Bergy the following in an email, "Do you recall offering to sell the car to anyone after you looked at it?" Well, I never owned the car to sell it; I never offered it for sale as a whole or in an envelope afterwards; I never even knew about the envelope story until this thread came about. When I asked 6 questions about the envelope sale issue, I never received any answers from Bergy. But yet he wants all info from me..not gonna happen now.......and...<span style="font-weight: bold">I think someone is confusing me with someone else and I know exactly why and can prove it, but it will get other people involved and I do not want to go there.</span> The element of trust is missing here and that is why I am mysterious. I'm sorry now that I even offered info in the first place, since it led to personal attacks on me. I'd like to know about the huge percentage also as requested above...BTW: PennDot records only go back 10 years, and from what I was told the microfische was also scuttled.
</div></div> This sure is interesting and I don't have a dog in the fight whatsoever. Are you you suggesting you can prove why you are being confused with someone else? I am just asking for clarification.
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"BTW: PennDot records only go back 10 years, and from what I was told the microfische was also scuttled. "
When using the DL-135 form from the PA-DMV, you can check the box for a Title History. If the history is older than 10 years, they will 'usually' search the fiche. If a record is found, you will receive a Vehicle Record Abstract. There are certain fiche records that are indeed gone, reportedly from a flood. I'm impressed that Bergy has someone from the PA-DMV calling him, I've never been that successfull - nor with such quick turn around times!
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