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Old 03-03-2004, 03:32 AM
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With all due respect Kurt I dont think its overkill, this is a very rust free very rare mostly number matching car and the agreement with the owner is when completed I will be showing the car around to create more business for myself. I have restored several Camaro`s and owned many and feel confident I have progressed as the years go by and can stand proud with the best. I want this car and ever one after to be a reflection of my hard work and attention to detail and want people and customers to know I went the extra mile. I also want the car to be as high a quality on the underside and up under the roof skin and in places that you will never see but you will know its done completely and correctly. would you not want you car done that way. I want to be one of the few that can be recomended without question to do a Camaro or what ever and the customer have total confidence in the work I do. I guess its called pride and yes it cost a little more.
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Old 03-03-2004, 12:27 PM
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I'll admit I don't post very often, and my opinion may not carry much weight, but I tend to agree with Kurt. Dipping a car that was reported to be so clean, does seem to be overkill. IMO a survivor car is way more intersting and valuable than just another restored car. I hope this rare car won't be over-restored like so many I see.

I am presently looking to purchase a new muscle car project and would choose a clean survivor with a little rust over a restored car with shiney paint. In general I am always worried about the quality of bodywork under shiney paint.

I love reading this forum and find everyones opinions interesting and informative.
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Old 03-03-2004, 01:23 PM
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I don't see any harm in it either way...you don't look under the headliner of a survivor car at a show..and it's not a survivor after it's been restored anyway...
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I was wondering when you dip the body my guess is the insulation under the headliner gets ate up too....how do you replace that?
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Old 03-08-2004, 08:36 PM
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Eddiey, yup, any putty and sound deadener is gone. Dip a hood and I have no idea how you'd fix that.

It's not cut and dried. It's not like dipping is the best way to prep a car if it's being restored. If it is, then I guess Brian, Gibson, Tinnell and all the others have been doing it wrong?

It removes items that the factory installed and will be hard to replace. It is one option, great for rust. But I know of some cars that didn't come out the better for it (it leached out of some crevasses and messed up the paint).

The owner's call, but I'd never have my cars dipped. Both are way too solid.
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Old 03-10-2004, 12:15 AM
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Kurt...... Thanks for the answer I always wondered if that kind of stuff could be replaced.
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Ed all those sealers, sound deadener and hood flutter compound can be replaced with out much trouble. If you have any questions as to how send me a PM and I'll let you know. Rich.
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Old 03-10-2004, 07:17 AM
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I will not dip any cars that come in here. Too many fix ups over the years from dipped cars. I would like to see the dip/ecoat process though that I have heard about. This is the only way I can see a possible good alternative. Right now I will stick with media blasting.
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Old 03-10-2004, 07:35 AM
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Since this post started I have been talking to the owner about the dipping process with E coat or sandblasting. We have had good and bad expressed about both from many well respected people like yourselves so I have decided to leave it up to him. I think I would rather dip if the e coat is applied rather than deal with the sand issue when the car goes to the paint shop, seems like you never get all of it out of the little nooks and crannies. I can work with it either way so we will take that step soon.
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Old 03-10-2004, 08:08 AM
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The media isnt really that bad if you roll it over on the roticery a few times and use air to blow it out. Its a lot better than paint falling off or discoloration at the seams later on.
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