This 69 Z is amazing

[Fast67VelleN2O]

Very nice car but to take the day 2 stuff off and give the engine compartment a fresh look? I would have rather seen it as is. There's thousands of fluffed Z28's around. Not many honest to goodness survivors. Personal opinion. Great car and I hope the seller does well with it!

[the427king]

Steve, does camaro judging differ from the corvette "survivor" judging type class ? I know corvette takes 4 categories[interior,exterior,undercarriage,engine compartment] and you must obtain 50% originality over all . If your undercarriage and engine compartment are extensively restored youve lost 50% ,how would one arrive at 50% originality unless the interior and paint both pass with 100%,unless there is a different formula?? Ive always avoided any type of spray paint or finsihing of any type on survivor cars ive had , i wonder if i should fluff some cars up while obtaining some originality and have a better cosmetic car that will still pass national judging ???

[Stefano]

Corvette Survivor judging is based on a percentage of 50% or better originality of 4 categories or levels.

You can not obtain a level in a category but still have a certified Survivor, just not a 4 level Survivor.

[Steve Shauger]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: the427king</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Steve, does camaro judging differ from the corvette &quot;survivor&quot; judging type class ? I know corvette takes 4 categories[interior,exterior,undercarriage,engine compartment] and you must obtain 50% originality over all . If your undercarriage and engine compartment are extensively restored youve lost 50% ,how would one arrive at 50% originality unless the interior and paint both pass with 100%,unless there is a different formula?? Ive always avoided any type of spray paint or finsihing of any type on survivor cars ive had , i wonder if i should fluff some cars up while obtaining some originality and have a better cosmetic car that will still pass national judging ??? </div></div>

Hi Chuck, I rather focus on our standards not other programs. I think you'll find all the information you need in our mission statement. Attached is a link to the Vintage Certification page http://www.mcacn.com/vintagecert.htm
Click on the highlighted Mission Statement link and you'll see our program is well defined and give examples of dos and don'ts and if you have further questions give me a call. The simple answer to your question is the more untouched we determine your car is, the better it will score. Preservation is only 10%, originality is 90%. hope this helps. Our philosophy is not to encourage owners to fluff their cars to achieve a better score which is how our program is set up.

I define fluffing as repainting and replating, and replacement of original components for ones that are in better condition. Reproduction/non OEM parts receive zero points. Replacement of non original components with orig assembly line components (not orig to car) results in a 50% credit score for that component.

Regarding cleaning, we rather you err on the side of caution and clean using non invasive methods so as to not remove stampings, inspection marks or finishes. The only reason there would be a deduction for cleanliness is if we can't determine the originality of plating or finishes in a particular area, but I don't recall that ever being an issue.

Hope this helps....

[the427king]

Great information. Thanks