Muncie shifter handle 70 chevelle

[P.J.]

Ok finally got home and on my own computer, so I will ask for your opinion again about this shifter handle. The assembly manual shows that shifter handle (2)in the attachment shows a number 3973864 this number is stamped on the bottom of the shifter handle. The note beside the part number says M20 M21 M22 W/Bucket seats.Does this note mean
that all bucket seat chevelles came with this shifter handle unless you ordered a council.Then GM would of instaled the council shifter 3973865 leaver which has no bend?
Thanks for your opinion.
for some reason I cant load the page from the assembly manual.
suprss70

[ORIGLS6]

Check out the pix attached here.

[ORIGLS6]

Another view.

[BBIGG BLOCK 396]

I have a bench handle with no part # on it and it does not say muncie on it and it has a curve in it to clear the bench seat.I think there were 3 style handles used!one for a console car!one for bucket seats with no console ! and one for bench seat!

Bobby Dodson

[P.J.]

Denis
I think that your shifter is the right one. Ray from Oaklahoma who repairs muncie shifters said that the bucket seat no council shifter is part number 3973867 .He also said that the assembly manuel is not correct for the 70 chevelle. The 3973867
shifter is right for the 70 chevelle ,for the council and
for the bucket seat without concil.
We are now getting to the close to the bottom of the 150 dollar question, Were there 3 diferent shifters used by GM
on the 70 chevelle? or were there only 2 shifter handles used one for the bench seat cars and the other shifter 3973867 used with bucket seat no council and bucket seat with council? 1969 cars shifters had no numbers stamped on the shifter handle.
all opinions will be apreciated
suprss70

[budnate]

did you count the shift plates on the plain handle??? I think the plain handled ones are typically for 3 spd only linkage so I beleive you are looking at two handles for application only...

[Keith Tedford]

I think you will find that the shift handles without lettering came in lower horsepower cars with the Saginaw transmission.

[ORIGLS6]

[ QUOTE ]
Denis
I think that your shifter is the right one. Ray from Oaklahoma who repairs muncie shifters said that the bucket seat no council shifter is part number 3973867 .He also said that the assembly manuel is not correct for the 70 chevelle. The 3973867
shifter is right for the 70 chevelle ,for the council and
for the bucket seat without concil.

[/ QUOTE ]

First, let me say the photos are not of my car but rather the "Benchmark" Chevelle. (Let's not rehash that whole thing again, PLEASE! Dean Ribich was responsible for that website and it has helped a tremendous number of people. Yes, some got upset over the car. My opinion: GET OVER IT! Publically, I still thank Dean for what he did and he remains a good friend of mine. The End!)
Now; it is also my understanding that the shifter handle shown in those photos was used with all bucket seat equipped cars whether they had a console or not. There are members here who are MUCH better versed in this matter than I; a couple of them named Rick! Let's see if we can get them to speak up.
Calling Mr. 70 and SS427!!!

[P.J.]

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suprss70

[ohhawk]

Pictures I've looked at would have me believing that the shifter for all bucket seat SS cars in '70 were the same whether you had a console or not. If there was a difference it doesn't show itself clearly in a picture. I look at my own (with a console) vs. the benchmark car (w/o console) as well as other '70 pictures and they look the same to me.

To fuel the confusion though I have another source that says there were 3 different part #'s:

3973865 - w/o bucket seats
3973864 - bucket seats / no console
3973866 - bucket seats / console

This source shows part #3973867 (mentioned in initial post) belonging to the SS 350 cars in '71 and '72. Also not aware of any shifter with a "no bend" in a '70 SS.

Clear as mud, right?