1969 Camaro Special Order Paint Process - Page 11

**CanCOPO** · #**101** 08-07-2015, 03:45 PM

I hate to chime in but I've watched this since joining. While some people need iron clad objective evidence others are free to invent provenance from scraps and this becomes gospel. Life aint fair, victors write history, etc., etc.

the427king · #**102** 08-07-2015, 04:03 PM

scuncio has an L89 el camino for sale in the ad section with an affidavit from the original owner. Absolutely great price and truck , thinking of buying it myself ! . Thankfully the original owner isnt on this site making 60 posts a day on why hes not being believed

**SS427** · #**103** 08-07-2015, 04:12 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bergy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Rick - did they give you contact info? </div></div>

No I did not get that from them. I was fighting a MAJOR illness while talking to them and really needed to get to my room and it did not cross my mind. I would imagine Phil could put you in touch.

clem · #**104** 08-07-2015, 04:30 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: the427king</div><div class="ubbcode-body">scuncio has an L89 el camino for sale in the ad section with an affidavit from the original owner. Absolutely great price and truck , thinking of buying it myself ! . Thankfully the original owner isnt on this site making 60 posts a day on why hes not being believed </div></div>another jerry ass kisser heard from. I know you guys need jerry to bless your cars but you should not obvious about it that he has you by the gonads. anyone who put up a snide remark about mewill be counter till you throw me off the board

**Keith Seymore** · #**105** 08-07-2015, 04:44 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bergy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Phil - I know that the Norwood assembly workers don't all have the skill and/or desire to write a book. That's where your presence has been invaluable. It would be really cool, however, if one or two of the most knowledgeable of those workers could participate directly in a forum like this. Can you encourage them to do that? I actually worked at St. Louis and Tonawanda during late 60's & throughout the 70s, but I never worked at Norwood. It would be great for us to be able to ask the actual worker(s) questions in a forum like this. Many of the members here won't be traveling to the Norwood events. It would be a real service to our hobby if you could encourage them to check in with us once in a while.

I'm a geezer now, but at 28 years of age I was promoted to superintendent of production at Chevrolet. At 26 I was senior engineer in charge of troubleshooting quality & special projects. So, I got to see and experience a lot the production processes. It would be great to be able to "compare notes" on this site with others who had production experience. Memories fade (I know that mine does!). </div></div>

Bergy - thank you for highlighting your experience.

I also co- op'd, but as a GMI student out of Chevrolet Flint Assembly. My first "real" job was as a production supervisor, Line 1 pickups, second shift and as of now I've been with GM for 37 years in assembly, product design/development, and engineering program management. I've launched product in every GM full size truck plant in North America (about a dozen - including St Louis) and one small car plant. I also shepherded about a dozen products from inception through to full volume production (the second generation Denali, Escalade, original H2 and first gen Chevy Volt/Opel Ampera, to name a few). I'm currently on a three year special assignment creating a low volume passenger car which I am not at liberty to talk about.

My dad also worked for GM for 32 years, in manufacturing (pressed metal) for Chevrolet, and as an advanced manufacturing engineer for CPC. He is the GM patentholder for several inventions, including the hydroform process which is in use on Corvettes and full size trucks, and used to make "special" parts for Duntov, Smokey and Penske. He also raced semi professionally for Pontiac Motor Division through Ace Wilson's Royal Pontiac.

I am surprised our paths have not crossed previously, and I share your sentiments about keeping our memories intact...

K

**Keith Seymore** · #**106** 08-07-2015, 04:47 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Keith Seymore</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> blah blah etc. through Ace Wilson's Royal Pontiac.

etc...

K </div></div>

Oh! But I'm not a geezer; I started at a very young age!

(I started two weeks after graduating high school; 7th level at the age of 23 and 8th level at the age of 30).

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**Steve Shauger** · #**107** 08-07-2015, 05:29 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: clem</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: the427king</div><div class="ubbcode-body">scuncio has an L89 el camino for sale in the ad section with an affidavit from the original owner. Absolutely great price and truck , thinking of buying it myself ! . Thankfully the original owner isnt on this site making 60 posts a day on why hes not being believed </div></div>another jerry ass kisser heard from. I know you guys need jerry to bless your cars but you should not obvious about it that he has you by the gonads. anyone who put up a snide remark about mewill be counter till you throw me off the board</div></div>

Clem, you've proven your point and collectively most of us appreciate your valuable input and passion. However there comes a point that your continued bashing of the inspector and members opinions is detrimental to this site and hobby. May I suggest you temper your remarks or you will wear out your welcome and be banned.

This thread has been very informative and that's what this site is all about. EVERYONE needs to keep focus on the technical aspects of the topic and stop the personal attacks.

It's about the hobby, sharing information, and our passion for knowledge.Let's focus on that.

**Charley Lillard** · #**108** 08-07-2015, 06:13 PM

I have warned Clem twice but now he is getting a well deserved "time out" for a month.

**bergy** · #**109** 08-07-2015, 06:28 PM

Hey Keith - I left GM in 1980, so you would have only been with GM a couple of years when I left. I did, however, drive the turbine car up from Warren to Flint V-8 to show the car off to the folks who helped us develop the anticipated production cost for the turbine engine. It was kind of a "thank you" visit. I was assigned to Chevrolet R&D at the Tech Center at the time. It would have been about 1977, so maybe you were there.

**Xplantdad** · #**110** 08-07-2015, 07:30 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bergy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hey Keith - I left GM in 1980, so you would have only been with GM a couple of years when I left. I did, however, drive the turbine car up from Warren to Flint V-8 to show the car off to the folks who helped us develop the anticipated production cost for the turbine engine. It was kind of a "thank you" visit. I was assigned to Chevrolet R&D at the Tech Center at the time. It would have been about 1977, so maybe you were there. </div></div>

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