E-Bay '69 Yenko Disguised As a Z-28 Clone!

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

.... because in '84 both RG cars were in the same general locale, and I wasn't sure if JIM was aware / or remembered the exact vin of the car in the barn with the cowl damage. Just trying to prevent the story of one RG car becoming morphed into the story of another RG car! Its just coincidence that there were two RG Yenko's in the same area at the same time.....

[Fast67VelleN2O]

What is with the apparent "vendetta" against this car? Let the man do HIS research on HIS car. By reading his posts, Bergy seems to be an honest fellow on the hunt for the REAL history about a car that NO ONE ELSE had the cojones to purchase. Shouldn't a vehicle be innocent until PROVEN guilty? All anyone has about this car up until this point is stories, and no hard facts have been presented at all. Just let the man do his research and when he presents it to everyone, then have something to say about his evidence on the vehicle. No matter how the vehicle ends up (rebody or fixed original body) the car should be saved. It is a piece of Yenko history.

-Matt

[Steve Shauger]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fast67VelleN2O</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What is with the apparent &quot;vendetta&quot; against this car? Let the man do HIS research on HIS car. By reading his posts, Bergy seems to be an honest fellow on the hunt for the REAL history about a car that NO ONE ELSE had the cojones to purchase. Shouldn't a vehicle be innocent until PROVEN guilty? All anyone has about this car up until this point is stories, and no hard facts have been presented at all. Just let the man do his research and when he presents it to everyone, then have something to say about his evidence on the vehicle. No matter how the vehicle ends up (rebody or fixed original body) the car should be saved. It is a piece of Yenko history.

-Matt </div></div>


Take a step back Matt. All Marlin was doing was stating/clarifying for Jim, that there were two Yenko cars in the same general vicinity that were heavily damaged. He was seeking information from Jim that his statement about the RG yenko was tied to a specific VIN.

No one stated that the car shouldn't be restored, however its pedigree is important. 90% of those that posted just want to find out what is original to the car. There is a lot of hearsay that could be cleared up with a fairly simple inspection of the car. That hasn't happened to date and we are all waiting. Researching the history of the car is important but more important is the physical integrity of the car since it has been confirmed there is a VIN discrepancy. Until the inspection is done I'm not sure what % of a Yenko you are saving and that is very important.

[Fast67VelleN2O]

I understand that everyone wants to know the truth of the vehicle and the questions surrounding it. Remember the rebody ZL1 Camaro that was sold recently at BJ? That sold at a decent amount, although, below the cost of a non rebody vehicle. The fact that it still sold in the $200,000 range says to me that people who can't afford a non rebody pedigree ZL1 would want the car based on the fact that it is affordable and they can still say they own a ZL1. If the car in question ends up being a rebody, I believe that this car can be viewed in the same respect. People who can't afford a pedigree documented Yenko will look at this car as a more affordable option and can still say that they own a Yenko vehicle, even with the rebody.

[vfitom]

I have some pics of the car when we looked at in 2000, but I do not know how to post them. I maybe can send them to someone that knows how, if it matters or not. Concerning the last line of the above post, I have trouble with accepting a rebody as a Yenko. But thats me.

[bergy]

HALLELUJAH Tom! Please send them. I PM'd you, emailed you, will even come to your house! I will post anything that you send. Thanks, bergy

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

No vendetta, no alterior motive, no objection to saving / restoring the car, etc.... No need for anyone to assume any of that stuff.

If/when someone down the road were to post something about another RG Yenko Camaro with such a similar background, an owner would likely be happy to have cleared that confusion up right at the outset. Bergy can't get to the car right now for a teardown, so its a good time to clear up some of that stuff. Amazing that some folks take that negatively, why? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif[/img]

[COPO140]

However you slice and dice it, the car will always have a high amount of speculation attached to it. Even if, by chance the car has some of the original body left, how would you prove it? Green paint? I don't think so. Even with green paint it's not difinitive. Look for the dual exhaust hanger, is it there? What about the rivets for the dash vin? Are they original? If the car was for sale in an envelope why would the original vin be reattached to the original body? If the car was hit hard enough to destroy the firewall I would find it hard to believe that the rest of the body wouldn't be severly damaged. Enough speculation. If the car is NOT a rebody, the burden of proof is on Bergy. Every sign thus far points to the car absolutely being a rebody.

[Jack_Tar]

You guys need to lighten up. I don't recall Bregy trying to sell you a 1 of 1 Yenko. As a matter of fact, Bregy recently bought the car. Let him enjoy it. We are all into these cars because we enjoy them. If you feel that you must beat someone down about something, get into politics. We all know there are some there that need a beatdown. Just a hunch, I think Bergy's car is a Yenko. Why in the world would someone rebody a Yenko then hide it under Z28 badges? My theory is that someone bought a wrecked Camaro not knowing it was a Yenko and repaired it and made a Z28 clone. If I were going to rebody a Yenko, it would have SYC headrests, body stripes and a 427.

[PeteLeathersac]

Marlin's right on trying to clarify what's known now while waiting for Bergy to investigate and report back including bringing the other RG car to light!.

No doubt what's found effects value but kudos to Bergy for presenting his car up front here also investigating in the open!.

Was the Vin tag ever really in an envelope or perhaps only offered as such but never actually removed?.

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~ Pete