1969 Camaro Z/28 w/Special Order Paint

[John]

... Clem,

Welcome to the site. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]

That is a beautiful car and a great restoration.

.... and especially neat that you had it special ordered for your wife .... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

[clem]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Day2_69Z</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes....we'd love your input and stories....in sharing anything and everything you can......
Of your many performance cars, Clem.Do you have any pics, 8 mm home movies, paper work, order forms, service records, parts invoices, window stickers......related to any of them ?

I'm also from Western Pa and have travelled past Grabiak Too many times to count on my way to Keystone Raceway/Pgh Raceway Park.

Now living in Irwin. Which is only a few miles/minutes away....I've seen the transformation of Grabiak back to a Performance Store with Corvettes and especially since 2010 with the Camaro.

Since the age of 14,,,, '72-'73 - on into my early 30's we would stop at Grabiak and look at the HP cars and visit Joe at the Corvette Center.
I don't have any pics....just fuzzy memories ...., </div></div>I sold all the paperwork for my corvettes to a collector and the fellow who has my 1970 450HP 454 chevelle also got the paper work. mrs. clem saved all that paperwork as she like to collect things. I have some pictures around here but I have no idea where they are locate. my sons race car from back in the 90s

[the427king]

&quot;but for any doubters&quot;..........Its only natural that youre going to get doubters when you are wanting 3 times what a car would be worth if it wasn't for the color.

[watk69]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: the427king</div><div class="ubbcode-body">&quot;but for any doubters&quot;..........Its only natural that youre going to get doubters when you are wanting 3 times what a car would be worth if it wasn't for the color. </div></div>


Reply of the thread right there!, especially if the original owner or Brad (the restorer) or whoever else has a stake in the car seems to want 200k or better for this machine. For such a special car there should have been a lot of fanfare, ......i.e. Polaroid and Kodak Instamatic with FlashCube pics somewhere. Bows ribbons, champagne, hot dogs etc......LOL. But at the very least a sale contract with THAT color listed on it beside special paint. We, as hobbyists, want to believe in this Omega, but at 200k anyone would be a fool to pay that without it being in STONE that it came that color from the factory

If it were mine, with this cloud of doubt around it, I would have taken the 160k it bid to and ran to the bank

[bergy]

I co-op'd out of St Louis, so it was all 3 lines (trucks, full size, &amp; Corvettes). My only experience actually painting was at Corvette though, where the panels were still sprayed manually &amp; then re-flowed (thank God!). Keith - I'm sure that you are stating facts, but half of the time standard colors didn't exactly match paint chips - there was some variance over time.

[clem]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: watk69</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: the427king</div><div class="ubbcode-body">&quot;but for any doubters&quot;..........Its only natural that youre going to get doubters when you are wanting 3 times what a car would be worth if it wasn't for the color. </div></div>


Reply of the thread right there!, especially if the original owner or Brad (the restorer) or whoever else has a stake in the car seems to want 200k or better for this machine. For such a special car there should have been a lot of fanfare, ......i.e. Polaroid and Kodak Instamatic with FlashCube pics somewhere. Bows ribbons, champagne, hot dogs etc......LOL. But at the very least a sale contract with THAT color listed on it beside special paint. We, as hobbyists, want to believe in this Omega, but at 200k anyone would be a fool to pay that without it being in STONE that it came that color from the factory

If it were mine, with this cloud of doubt around it, I would have taken the 160k it bid to and ran to the bank </div></div>I had at least 6 new cars,corvettes and trucks painted non standard colors and it was just a way to be different,nothing special back then. the Z/28 had the grill painted flat black and the rear panel and spoiler face was also painted black with a textured vinyl top paint. my way of personalizing my car

[MarcDant]

Why was this car inspected in the first place?. The original owner has confirmed the colour. The trim tag and dealer invoices are there. The stampings are legitimate. Yes,its an early car. Yes, I wasn't one of the detectives that inspected the car. That car is unique.I too have a -- paint car and my canadian gm docs list a 1001pa special color.The original owner confirmed the color to me as purple the original luovers from the fenders still have born with paint.I paid no attention to what some of the detectives had to say.

[clem]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bergy</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"></div></div>

I co-op'd out of St Louis, so it was all 3 lines (trucks, full size, &amp; Corvettes). My only experience actually painting was at Corvette though, where the panels were still sprayed manually &amp; then re-flowed (thank God!). Keith - I'm sure that you are stating facts, but half of the time standard colors didn't exactly match paint chips - there was some variance over time. </div></div>my 62 corvette was painted from the st louis factory anniversary gold and my 65 396 was a factory delivery on april 16 1965

[clem]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: marshall</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why was this car inspected in the first place?. The original owner has confirmed the colour. The trim tag and dealer invoices are there. The stampings are legitimate. Yes,its an early car. Yes, I wasn't one of the detectives that inspected the car. That car is unique.I too have a -- paint car and my canadian gm docs list a 1001pa special color.The original owner confirmed the color to me as purple the original luovers from the fenders still have born with paint.I paid no attention to what some of the detectives had to say. </div></div>the restorer found me thru the internet after the inspection by the experts. I had put the VIN numbers of my 68 and 69 Z/28 on the Camaro website and posted I had the paper work. he put the VIN in goggle and my name came up

[iluv69s]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cook_dw</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: iluv69s</div><div class="ubbcode-body">can you put the chip of EO and cortez silver against the roof without the white borders??? id be interested to see the difference then. Looks like the pics of the car now are under fluorescent lights... any pics of the car now in outdoor lighting??? </div></div>



<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 70 copo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">BTW... Norwood Chevrolet side inspectors used paint chips to accept bodies from Fisher Body. Paint in smaller batches at Fisher Body was also hand measured and tinted by eye to a match with a chip. </div></div>


&quot;What a joke..&quot; Everyone knows these were cookie cutter and built by machines..!!.. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif[/img] </div></div>

Thanks.... case closed in my opinion...