1970 gto judge ram air IV

[Steve_Hoog]

This code is cast in the side of the block, and may be exclusive to RAV blocks but not sure.

[Steve_Hoog]

This is the casting number in the intake.

[Steve_Hoog]

These are the heads and aluminum flywheel that were on the vehicle when he tore it down a year ago, he's not sure if it was GM. I just called him and sent him back out to his shop to find out if there is a GM number on it, seems like I've heard about such flywheels but not sure myself.

[GTO_DON]

MR MUSCLE I DONT HAVE TO SHARE WHAT CARS I HAVE WITH ANYBODY! LIKE THE OTHER POST SAID, ATLEAST PEOPLE KNOW WHO I AM! YOU DONT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT YOURSELF! WHY DONT YOU TELL ME WHAT CARS YOU HAVE? IM NOT TRYING TO BE SMART,AND I HAVE THE UPMOST RESPECT FOR ALOT OF THE MEMBERS ON THIS SIGHT. [GOD KNOWS ID LOVE TO OWN ONE OF THE SUPERCARS SOME OF YOU HAVE,BUT MAKE NO MISTAKE,WITH THE EXCEPTION OF JIM MATTISON,NOBODY ON THIS SIGHT HAS OWNED MORE GTO'S OR KNOWS MORE ABOUT THESE CARS! IVE JUNKED MORE JUDGES THAN MOST PEOPLE HAVE SEEN. IVE MADE IT MY LIFE WITH THESE CARS. I HAVE A PASSION FOR THEM. IVE HAD MY SHARE OF OTHER HIGH END CARS TOO! LIKE A 65 Z16,LS-6,L78'S 427 GALAXIES AND HEMI'S AND JUST SOLD A SD CATALINA. I CAN BE A GOOD FRIEND HERE AND DONT MIND SHARING ANY KNOWLEDGE WITH ANYBODY. I AGREE WITH MIKE THAT NEVER SAY NEVER BUT ITS TIME TO BE STRAIGHT. I DONT BELIEVE THAT CAR IS A REAL RA V CAR! IF IS IS LETS BRING IT OUT AND DOCUMENT IT! AND NOT WITH A BLURRY PIC LIKE THAT ONE. LOOKS LIKE HE TOOK IT WITHOUT PERMISSION. FOR THE RECORD I WISH THE CAR WAS REAL! BUT SOMEHOW IM THINKING THAT MONEY IS AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS ISSUE. MAYBE SOMEBODY WANTS TO CASH IN! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]I WILL POST THE INVOICE WITH MEMO ON IT, AND THE CAR IS NOT FROM KNAFLE! IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY THERES DIFFERENT NUMBERS NEXT TO MEMO. IF SOMEBODY EVER DECODES WHAT MEMO MEANS I THINK ALOT OF YOU WILL BE SURPRISED. HELP ME OUT WITH THIS JIM! EVERBODY IS A EXPERT!!!

[DaJudge]

Sixties the Tin Indian is a 70 GTO. RA IV SD engines were supposedly installed in 70 Trans Ams, but no car has ever surfaced and no documeNtation exists to prove that these cars are real. Pontiac was going to put these cars into production but THE ENGINES WERE NEVER FEDERALLY CERTIFIED FOR EMISSIONS STANDARDS. I would love for one of these cars to exist because they would bring big dollars and bring the value of my RA IV car up wih it. Show me some real certified documentation or shut up!!!!!!!!. Did the WY get stamped by the franklin mint ??????

[Steve_Hoog]

Don

I'm not really sure what your going on about, but I'll leave that between you and Mr. Muscle please.

As for the cash in comment, I don't own the car, what would it benefit me in monetary value to prove this? I acknowledged what this means to me in a previous post, there is nothing in it about money. The actual owner is just like me in repect to ownership of personal cars, they will be with us as long as we are alive. I still own the very first GTO I bought in 79, and he still owns his first car. Along with others on both our parts, this Judge is no exception to him. His kids may sell it after he's dead, but he won't. And the car couldn't have a better home, he will take the best of care with it. And more importantly.... I somewhat put my friendship at risk bringing the car to a public light, he would have assumed no one ever known about.

And what you getting on to Astock about his pic for? From what I understand he was just scouting the car for purchase, not setting up for a professional photo shoot.

[DaJudge]

Steved the WY is interesting but the RA V had a different casting number then any 400 blocks made . What is it? And can we all see a picture of it? And finally show me the VIN number in the block because if it was factory that cars VIN will be in the block if not kiss my ass. At least an engineering number should be on the block. I have been around these cars since I was 17 and have owned and researched many Pontiacs. My 71 Judge won a gold at Nationals and was the first 71 Judge made and was tagged for Detriot and Atlantic City New Jersey autoshows and was the first Judge made for 71, the [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/Charley.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/Charley.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/Charley.gif[/img] build sheet backs up my mouth. I have owned many GTO's and Judges and I think I know what I am talking about.

[hvychev]

This thread rules!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[Steve_Hoog]

Dajudge

I certainly hope you will be at Joplin next year, it will be an immense pleasure to meet you in person.

The owner of the car is already in his pj's and didn't feel like he needed to fill your request for another pic, I don't blame him. He did say to tell you the number is 481708, and tomrorrow he might go flip the block for a pic. But he thinks your a little over the edge.

If you will go back and read the previous post, you will see that I clearly stated there is no VIN number on the block. And no I will not kiss your butt.

You and Don both need to remember, this is not about what I have said. This is about what Bill Knafel has said. I don't know Bill personally, but I bet he has more integrity than anyone elses opinion in this matter.

Bragging about a car is not my style, racing is. Bring on your first 71 Judge, lets see if you can back it up at the track!!!

[GTO_DON]

i think bill knafle tends to elaborate the truth of what he remembers. EVERYBODY LOVES A [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif[/img]GOOD STORY!