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Green with Green is a killer combo.
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The one that tracker mentioned on ebay has been for sale as a consignment for almost 6 months. It was once owned by clint r. in iowa. It has a cert. from camaro high performance. There must be some history that brings the value of this copo down. anyone ?? I have looked at the car, good restoration work. But i have not looked at the car in extreme details, or numbers chasing.
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Is it just the market dragging this car down or is there some ghosts in it's closet? Does anyone know history on this car?
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GTO_DON</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: frankk</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You won't find an oe drivetrain real doc'd 69 COPO for $151,000. </div></div>Why not? </div></div> If I recall correctly the discussion on this site of the car in question, I believe the sale at BJ was an abnormality. The car was poorly presented, was not conclusive as to its technical merits and I believe someone stated most of the bidders had gone home when it came across the block.
69 COPO's with oe drivelines and real doc's are far and few between and finding one for sale gets even harder.I just don't believe an owner of such a car would use the BJ car as an example of value. |
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on the ebay car...
From reading the ad/auction details all they say about the motor is "This car has an L72 solid lifter, iron-block 427 cu. in., 425 horsepower Chevy V-8, an original Bob Yost-built COPO-specific 427." and about the trans "The transmission is a Muncie M-21 4-speed" and about the rear end "a factory BE 12 bolt 4:10 Positraction rear-end " Not once do I see the seller saying this is a numbers matching born with anything, he doesn't even say the drive train is date code correct, but he does say .... "By the way, one of the things that should be there is the date-matched heater box and blower motor, one of the real tell-tales when looking for what is and what is not a real COPO Camaro." So I wish I would have know to look for that when I bought my COPO... I hope I have the date matched heater box and blower motor ! That's why it is 115K ..
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: frankk</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GTO_DON</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: frankk</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You won't find an oe drivetrain real doc'd 69 COPO for $151,000. </div></div>Why not? </div></div> If I recall correctly the discussion on this site of the car in question, I believe the sale at BJ was an abnormality. The car was poorly presented, was not conclusive as to its technical merits and I believe someone stated most of the bidders had gone home when it came across the block.
</div></div> 100% incorrect. The car was prominently displayed in the main tent and went on the block during prime time, Saturday evening.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ChevyThunder</div><div class="ubbcode-body">why it is 115K .. </div></div>
There are numerous factors which can effect the value of a collector car such as a COPO Camaro. Collectors have become more discerning regarding what they are or are not willing to pay for in today's market. Color, options, quality of the restoration and parts used as well as history, pedigree and provenance all play into the total package. Price out date coded BE internals vs RPO 4.10s, or a flat bottom original air cleaner vs repro, or an original cowl hood vs repro, or how about NOS door seals and original weather stripping vs repro...the list goes on and in this case you get what you pay for... A real COPO 9561 with a nice fresh shiny paint job/resto. You also have to be careful about who you buy from. I inspected a few COPOs which were sold and had $1,000s of dollars worth of original parts stripped off and replaced with reproductions. |
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Mecum Auctions : These are 'real deal' cars, not the replicas, that came across their auction block in the past 2 years.
05/2008 - $180,000 - No Sale - Lot S127 1969 Chevrolet Camaro COPO L72 427 4-speed 10/2008 - $90,000 - No Sale - Lot S238 1969 Chevrolet Camaro COPO Coupe 427/425 HP 05/2009 - $150,000 - No Sale - Lot S144 1969 Chevrolet Camaro COPO Coupe 05/2009 - $212,500 - Sold - Lot S149 1969 Chevrolet Camaro COPO Coupe 427 CI, Automatic 05/2010 - $110,000 - No Sale - Lot S178 1969 Chevrolet Camaro COPO Coupe 427/425 HP, 4-Speed 05/2010 - $100,000 - No Sale - Lot F255.1 1969 Chevrolet Camaro COPO 2-Door Hardtop 427 CI, 4-Speed
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Great discussion. Obviously the market on musclecars ebbs and flows, like everything else, and it does seem like the market has slowed a bit on even the most elite pieces. Does anybody remember that cortez silver 1969 Camaro COPO RS car from the Reggie Jackson collection that sold on the russo steele auction? That one was reported to be #s matching and documented, and had been restored in the 90s but seemed to present very well. It sold in '06 for $139,700 and sold again in '08 for $118,250. Did any of you see this car in person? I thought that car would have brought more $$ too.
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