CE replacement block or date code correct block

[Ngtflyr]

I would like to thank everyone for their insightful inputs, I appreciate it. I will pass it on to the customer so he can make up his mind on which way he wants to go.

[jasonL78]

My 68 L79 had the original motor replaced the day the new owner picked up the car. The casting on the block is actually september-67 and has the correct CE8####### on the engine pad so what category would my car fall into. I have spoke with the original owner and he told me the day he picked his new car up the motor went. He didn't have the paper work for the CE replacement. So is this considered just just a CE replacement with no paper work?????

[olredalert]

----My #1 choice after a "born with" engine would be an engine with nothing on the pad but a good casting date. How many original engine cars are out there with thier original engines that have been decked? I suspect more than a few! How can a judge make the determination that you dont have the original engine if the casting date is good and there are no #s? Of course there would be points lost due to the missing #s.....Bill S

[Stefano]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: olredalert</div><div class="ubbcode-body">----My #1 choice after a &quot;born with&quot; engine would be an engine with nothing on the pad but a good casting date. How many original engine cars are out there with thier original engines that have been decked? I suspect more than a few! How can a judge make the determination that you dont have the original engine if the casting date is good and there are no #s? Of course there would be points lost due to the missing #s.....Bill S </div></div>

There are some other makes and models, other than Corvettes, which do not have VINs on the pad, but do have them in other places.

[olredalert]

----Stefano,,,A local appraiser on the northside of Detroit came to look at a 69 SS Chevelle that I knew something about and told the owner point blank that the car didnt have the original engine because there was no partial serial # on the pad, but the rest of the #s on the pad were correct. I knew him and called him up and told him to come back out and we would review his statement. When he got there I had the car up in the air and asked him to look by the starter. He said &quot;why?&quot;. He then proceeded to tell me that those serial #s had probably been stamped in there by some monkey. He now has the rest of the story.......Bill S

[TimG]

A CE motor could have a correct casting date like your '68, L79. That's a nice situation. I don't know how it would judge out, but NCRS would reward that engine if it were a Corvette. Bloomington would &quot;box&quot; the car, even under the new rules.

[PeteLeathersac]

If Stefano's examples besides #8 are original broach/stampings, I'd choose this order.
1 - 4 - 2 - 3 - 6 - 5 - 7 - 9 - 10 - 11
#08 is missing as I wouldn't want the friggin' thing around (unless decked into a #6)

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~ Pete

[Kurt S]

I have yet to see an 'all-model' appraiser who knows squat about Chevrolets and Camaros. I've seen lots of appraisals over the years and they say how nice the cars are and how great the docs are. But most of the docs are repros and the engine are restamps.

Other than Jerry, I haven't seen anyone doing knowledgeable Camaro appraisals. It's not easy - some of the restamps and fake paper look good.
No idea who I'd suggest to do a Nova or Chevelle.

[SS427]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kurt S</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No idea who I'd suggest to do a Nova or Chevelle. </div></div>

I have inspected and/or have on the schedule a total of over 15 1970 Chevelles from Penn to Cali since about August of last year and specialize in the LS6. I seriously make no money doing it and basically cover my cost but hope to gain new customers and save people from buying fake cars which is why I started doing it. 4 of the cars currently in our shop are due to these inspections. I have saved some buyers from buying some real junk and helped buyers locate and purchase several good and real cars so I am happy that I have been able to help people and grow our business.

There are numerous people on this board who could do qualified Nova inspections.

[Xplantdad]

Rick is definitely the go to guy for Chevelles! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif[/img]