70 Judge RAIV and V continuation

[Supergas990]

Roger, (resto4u)

Just wondering if you were able to get any more info on the RA IV GTO or possibly buy the car? There have been so many posts I might have missed the final outcome, but was curious.

Blair

[Born30YrsLate]

How about we all go over to a Pontiac board and start a post on Chevy Supercars....fair is fair... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]

[sixtiesmuscle]

Good idea Fred, but, I think it might get shut down a lot faster than it would get up to 19 pages. As for all those who have emailed asking ME to get Mrs BillyBobcat to enlarge the picture, I say do it yourself. I know it's nice to now have two Mrs posting, but, now we REALLY have to keep it clean.

[bkhpah]

Just for kicks, I drove and punished my buddies RA V 1969 GTO. M22 4:56.1. Yes it was an over the counter deal, but that is the sweetest sounding stock Pontiac I have ever been around. And I have been around a few stock RA IV...BKH [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif[/img]

[sixtiesmuscle]

Believe it or not, the RAV program was a failure because the motors were not as good as the RA IV. The tunnel port heads were a great concept, albeit one ripped off from Ford, but, according to sources who were there, they couldn't get them to work as well as the IV heads on the 400 C.I. block. Now, do a little work on them, and, bolt them onto a bigger cube engine, and, look out. From everything I've heard, however, the "stock" RAIV would outperform the stock RAV. Now we have something to keep our new Pontiac friends around to discuss. Any opinions? LOL

[MotownMadman]

Sixties,
My Team Shelby 68 TA Mustang has the one year only 302 Tunnel Port engine, the engine made a lot of HP but it only worked really well at high RPM due to the volume of fuel/air mixture coming through the huge ports. That created the problem which caused the engines to keep exploding, the high RPM caused all the oil to be in the top of the engine and the drains in the heads were not large enough to get it back to the pan before they grenaded. Ford had built the TA engines on the assembly line to prove to the public how good their manufacturing was, because of that they dictated to Shelby that the team was not allowed to alter or change the engines to correct the problem. Had it not been for the politics Ford would have made a better showing with the tunnel port design against Chevrolet, but I dont believe they could have took the championship away from the 302 Z engine, even with the problem corrected. The huge intake ports were just too much for the amount of cubic inch of the 302. Fords 427 Tunnel Port worked much better with the TP design, as it probebly would have worked better for Pontiac with more cubic inch.
Motown [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]

[gtoguru]

Yes I own a 69 GTO Judge with RAIV, bench seat, and column shift turbo 400. Car is also Starlight Black.

[Steve_Hoog]

You got some pics of that starlight Judge? That sounds sweet and I'd like to see it.

[gtoguru]

The car is in many pieces at the present time awaiting a frame off restoration. Hope to start on it maybe next fall if finances allow it. A guy had one at the GTO Nats this summer( RAIV Judge, 4 speed, Starlight Black ) and it certainly commanded everyones attention. Hoping to make mine as nice but it will take me a while to do one that good. It aint going anywhere though. Jim

[bkhpah]

All I know about the RA V in my friends Goat is that the motor was built by the Glasgo's "sp". They are real Pontiac motor people. It was strong...BKH