Tonawanda small block?

[NCGuy68]

Gents,

Thanks for the replys.

I would keep a Tonawanda small block in any 67-69 Camaro/Chevelle if it is a original survivor. Many have been 'hacked-up' or converted to big blocks. Original, unmolested examples might be desirable in the future.

Bill S. Keep the wagon as original. There is a known 69 COPO Kingswood Estate wagon that could fetch high $$ if the owner ever wants to sell it.

[westonz28rs]

Another T1206ML in a 1967 Camaro RS. Strange engine date as the car was built in 03D (March 4 week) Second owner, brother-in-law bought it new off the lot. Have P.O.P and order form to go with car. Would be hard to prove engine was original if not for the POP. This is a L30/M20 Camaro, repainted once and new seats and carpet. Engine still runs great.

[olredalert]

------Thanks Craig! I definetly wont be modifying this wagon as it is so original it hurts! The question is wether to sell it or not. Im sure no one here thinks of it as rare or desirable, but try to find a good, low mileage, original wagon. There are plenty of decent long-roofs around to be modified into ersatz SSs, but only a handful of un-Fd-up low mileage, near perfect wagons. With that said, I like playing with things and all I can do with this car is keep it as nice as it already is. The 65 Im building kind of satisfys my need to mess with stuff (in a good way, I hope).
------Kind of sound like I answered my own question, huh? Maybe I should get the camera out and get this ol Chevelle up on the for-sale board............Bill S

[ds1]

Interested in this thread. No one answered why there is no VIN or where else it would be?

[SuperNovaSS]

Partial VINs were not required until 1968. Before that, the generally only came on "high performance" engines.


Jason

[ds1]

Thank you Jason. We picked up an Early 67 Tonowanda block car. The stamp looked right on but had no vin. Researching on the way home I found this thread and a picture of a 67 block stamped just like his. September built car with a T09I3MM stamping and no vin. Thanks Dan

[Hotrodpaul]

Here is mine from my old 70 SS 350 Camaro. Many of the base SS 350 300 Hp engines were built at Tonawanda.

[novadude]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: olredalert</div><div class="ubbcode-body">--------The aforementioned 69 Concours wagon is sitting in the driveway. 350/two-barrell single exhaust,F41,Posi,tilt,AC,M40. 38000 orig. miles,motor never out or apart. Oh, it had a waterpump and a rebuilt carb at sometime or other. What do you want to know?
--------Am trying to decide weather to keep it or not, as I am in the middle of a body-off on a 65 Chevelle wagon. I like wagons but am not sure I need two.............Bill S </div></div>

The block I used for my '65 Nova build was a '69 250hp 350 built in Tonawanda. There is something weird about those Tonawanda small blocks in that era. The oil galley plug in the rear of the left deck, and also the galley plug above the oil filter were press-in plugs and not pipe plugs. We had to remove them to clean the block properly, so we drilled oversize and tapped for the next largest size pipe thread. Every Flint block I've seen from that era had screw in pipe plugs.

[olredalert]

----Bringing up this thread from 2004 brought back some good memories, and a small bit of sadness. I sold that Concours wagon to a local guy. Actually, a real nice guy known to some of our members here. He proceeded to yank the drivetrain and install a full tilt 502 and pro-toured the car. I actually think the car is pretty cool, however I really liked as it was. I don't know what he did with the Tonawanda 350......Bill S

[red67]

Here is a picture of the engine stamp from my 1967 NOR 11B Convertible built on Nov 11. Completely original 327/275 PG owned since 1978. No partial VIN on 1967 Camaro 327/275. Tonawanda built engine decals were exactly the same as the silver big blocks but installed on the lower outside middle of the drivers side valve cover. Interesting item on this engine is that both heads are dated Nov 1, one day before the engine was assembled.