Fake Trim Tag?

[musclecarjohn]

that trim tag was making me dizzy just looking at it.
could any of the other pictures be any more blurry?
loved his excuses to Lynn as to why he couldn't show the trans VIN....ha!

[Hotrodpaul]

I really like the car but the seller has represented the car as a real Z28. If it has a fake tag, then this is fraud in my opinion. Just wanted to bring this to light. Looks like there is too much filler in the rivets also. I have never seen that much before.

Paul

[Steve Shauger]

Looks like the putty is being used to cover up incorrect rivets.

[ohhawk]

Certainly things that cause suspicion but I wouldn't rule it out as the real thing myself. I'd want to see that buildsheet. Other things that aren't correct only tells me that the restoration wasn't totally correct. Not everyone tries to make them totally correct.

As far as the trim tag rivets I wouldn't say they look that out of place......

http://classicauto-sales.com/zoom.php?car=187&pic=5

[Lynn]

Check this out. Mark C. did speak up, but on TC forum. Unbelievably someone swapped a fake X33 tag onto a car that had a real X77 tag. Car used to be Glacier Blue. Engine is also a restamp according to Mark.

http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=86575

Many thanks to Mark and all the other guys who have been tracking tags and VINS.

[Steve Shauger]

Yes the engine restamp is another poor attempt to deceive unsuspecting buyers. The stories the sellers come up with are real winners.

[jbsides]

Won't eBay be participating in a fradulent auction by accepting fees from the sale of this bogus car? Isn't there any liability on eBay's part if they do so? Can't they get sued when the lawsuits start flying after the unwary winning bidder concludes he has been taken?
I know there are lawyers who are members of this board. Someone is going to be awful upset they spread out that much dough for something this misrepresented.
Nice looking car, though. I'm surprised noone has brought up the non original shiny new valve covers yet.

JB

[jbsides]

Maybe I missed it, but were there any casting dates noted for those 041 heads? Even with the extended production, I have never heard of them used on a '69 Z, and I don't recall seeing any on a 70 1/2 Z either.

JB

[Hylton]

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Won't eBay be participating in a fradulent auction by accepting fees from the sale of this bogus car? Isn't there any liability on eBay's part if they do so? Can't they get sued when the lawsuits start flying after the unwary winning bidder concludes he has been taken?
I know there are lawyers who are members of this board. Someone is going to be awful upset they spread out that much dough for something this misrepresented.
Nice looking car, though. I'm surprised noone has brought up the non original shiny new valve covers yet.

JB

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Who says it is fake?

You see JB, it may very well be but the problem is that you must prove it is fake. In order to do that, you will have to do it in a court of law. The burden of proof will be on you, not the seller. Whoever gets this car will have to tear it apart to find some incriminating evidence as well as do a previous owner search and get sworn affidavits from them as to what the car was in the past. Right now, this seller may be guilty of having a fake trim tag and a re-stamped block but it is possible that this car can be real.

Do I think it is real? Hell no! Can I prove it is not real? No I can't.

Thinking of buying a muscle car? Previous owner history, previous owner history, previous owner history...........

I say this is more important than docs!

[jbsides]

You asked who said it is fake? I didn't.

Bogus, misrepresented, yes, but I did not say "fake." Point is, when and if the buyer does discover the car is not what he thought he was buying, the chances of him sueing everyone is good.

Whether or not he can proove it in a court of law is something else.

JB