Barrett Jackson COPO Camaro

[akcamaro]

And I'm not so sure on the authenticity of this one either.

[COPO 70 RS/Z28]

<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre>1) I bought #27 ZL-1 from Dick Tutino (ser mgr at Alan Green Chev in Seattle(Burien), WA
around 1976. I would have been approx 29 years old.
Car had been raced from Day 1 as Super Stock. When unsucessful in S/S Dick changed car to B/MP class. I knew nothing of ZL-1 engine internals. When I bought car it had Tunnel Ram with 2 Holly 4500's. Also had broken Chrysler 4 spd and DANA 60 Differential. (conclusion: born with carb, intake, T-400, 12 Bolt MISSING IN ACTION!!!)

2) Car had NO roll bar, no subframe connectors, no altered wheel tubs. As I wanted to participate with the fledgling NorthWest Pro-Stock cars, NHRA mandated a roll cage. As well car sorely needed larger tires and new wheels tubs.
#27 went to Tacoma, WA chassis shop owned by Thayne Porlier. Porlier was instructed that car was to remain NHRA legal for Mod/Prod and factory steel floors had to remain.
For reasons I never learned, Porlier removed most/much of the factory floor, fabricated a new rear frame, roll cage, etc etc.
I was very upset with his work, would not pay the bill, and he impounded the car from his shop until I paid. Cant remember time frame, but this episode wound up in court with the likes of Al Swindahl (deceased chassis builder) and others as my expert witnesses. Jerry Valentine (well known NHRA tech director) may have been involved and surely must remember.............
Court awarded me car back, I did not have to pay the bill, and cant remember if I got much if anything in $$$ damages.

3) It was at this point I parted out #27. </pre><hr />

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Man, Looks like the sign left some stuff out??

[rare4k]

[Dave Rifkin]

This may have been covered before but, if the chassis shop removed a good portion of the trunk floor by mistake, you tok them to court and won the car back without having to pay the chassis shop bill, why not just have the floorpans repaired opposed to parting the car out?

Was it at a time where these were just old cars and not that valuable or were there other reasons that made parting the car out the more desirable route to take?

[sYc]

As with instant replay in sports, it is amazing what replaying something, even slowing it down, can show. If it were not for today's technology and the ability to record, most of what we are discussing would ahve been lost. I would imagine CJ is wishing for once he had not got so much on air time.

After watching the whole thing several times, the part that sickens me the most has to be when CJ stops the hammer, then turns and smiles/winks at Reggie and GH. That speaks volumes to be about the character, or lack of it, of CJ.

[Mr70]

I think it's pretty dispicable that they &amp; others keep bringing up the.."C'mon it's for the children" charity statement.
Of course it's appreciated,but when you try to achieve that by using underhanded tactics like CJ &amp; his crew do to raise that money,it completely diminishes the spirit of which it should be donated in the first place.
It's as if they look like that if they keep reminding everyone about charity,even they themselves will begin to believe it.
Quit hiding behind charity,and use it to justify what you really do,and then take credit for it Craig..

[Hylton]

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I think it's pretty discpicle that they &amp; others keep bringing up the.."it's for the children" charity statement.
Of course it's appreciated,but when you try to justify that with some of the underhanded tactics CJ &amp; his crew do to raise that money for charity,it completely diminishes the spirit of which it should be donated in the first place.
It's almost as if they feel that if they broadcast it over &amp; over,even they themselves will begin to believe it.
Quit hiding behind charity Craig..

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I'd like to see him say - "whatever it sells for, BJ will match it". He's probably thinking about what a great person he is by not charging the 20% commish.

[CamarosRus]

Dave and others, As you can READ the B/J sign above left out my complete 2nd ownership of the car.

Dick Tutino had nothing to do with Chassis shop fiasco, court case or parting car out........

I cant explain my actions now.....but having floor replaced with another floor never occurred to me. This was the late 70's and people werent restoring 69 Camaros.......
Aftermarket floors were not available, and taking one from wrecked 69' wasnt a thought.......regrettably!!!!!!!

[1railman]

[ QUOTE ]
I think it's pretty dispicable that they &amp; others keep bringing up the.."C'mon it's for the children" charity statement.
Of course it's appreciated,but when you try to achieve that by using underhanded tactics like CJ &amp; his crew do to raise that money,it completely diminishes the spirit of which it should be donated in the first place.
It's as if they look like that if they keep reminding everyone about charity,even they themselves will begin to believe it.
Quit hiding behind charity,and use it to justify what you really do,and then take credit for it Craig..

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I agree, Madoff did wonders for charity too.

[Jim Ferron]

Does anybody know the guy who bought the car at B-J?

Let's at least realize that B-J disclosed the car as a rebody on their web-site, on the auction block and the owner disclosed it on a sign that was displayed in front of the car.

Yes the history isn't quoted correctly , but in the end. Wasn't there enough info plainly displayed to make even the most 'ignorant' buyer at least a bit skeptical?

AND this fella didn't pay anywhere NEAR the going rate for a ZL-1 with a clear, CLEAN, provanance?

Maybe the buyer is thrilled with his buy?

As far as the shill bidding, I'm a car dealer by trade. I go to wholesale auctions weekly. Shill bidding is as common as a cup of bad coffee.It happens on , I'd bet 70% of all cars thru a wholesale auction. If the seller won't sell the car under, say, $10,000 , the auctioneer runs the car there [$9900] with or without a 'real' bidder. Next 'real' bid buys the car. [these are NOT 'no reserve' auctions..]

Yeah if I was the buyer I'd be pissed off Reggie was a seemingly obvious shill for the owner...but that's the way auctions are. It can be a really lousy place to buy a car...wholesale or retail.

I personally wouldn't get NEAR a collector car at an auction without superior knowledge about a car...

Maybe the buyer knew exactly what he was doing...he paid the premium to be on TV.

I wouldn't be so anxious to fight his battle.