1969 Camaro Z/28 w/Special Order Paint

[EdM]

I know man.

How are you holding up these days?

I continue to be amazed at the amount of questioning of "original owner", plus "dealer statement, plus multiple people who remember the car back in the day.

I guess you should have taken one of the fenders off of the car when it was new and stored it away. But if you had done that, someone would say it was from a different car.

Life is too short to keep fighting these battles.

Hang in there Clem.

[Day2_69Z]

Hey....
Quit using that. "PINK" word in reference to '69 Camaros.....

We have one...as posted here in the past.
It's gonna get a complex or Lotta Scrutiny to where a $35,000 car gets bashed, accoladed then auctioned for $150,000......
Can't deal with that.....and the silly ass Pink Car is the only known DZ , automatic & A/C car to grace these pages. (Yes, transplanted)
Its already confused enough ....tri polar ..

[clem]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EdM</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I know man.

How are you holding up these days?

I continue to be amazed at the amount of questioning of &quot;original owner&quot;, plus &quot;dealer statement, plus multiple people who remember the car back in the day.

I guess you should have taken one of the fenders off of the car when it was new and stored it away. But if you had done that, someone would say it was from a different car.

Life is too short to keep fighting these battles.

Hang in there Clem. </div></div>I am 81 years old and this is the easiest thing I have ever done. try building engines to run the Daytona 500 along with working a real job and working 18 hours a day. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/laugh.gif[/img]

[Day2_69Z]

I am 81 years old and this is the easiest thing I have ever done. try building engines to run the Daytona 500 along with working a real job and working 18 hours a day. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/laugh.gif[/img] [/quote]

Norm Benning Jr. from Level Green ?

[clem]

I have been at this a long time.

[clem]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Day2_69Z</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am 81 years old and this is the easiest thing I have ever done. try building engines to run the Daytona 500 along with working a real job and working 18 hours a day. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/laugh.gif[/img] </div></div>

Norm Benning Jr. from Level Green ? [/quote]I know norm and I also knew his dad but I built for paul fess and lasky construction the #82 car is who i built for

[William]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Posted by Clem.. &quot;because jerry reputation as a Camaro expert is at stake here . why do you think his buddy william keep posting he did not see any EO paint when they looked at the car ????&quot;

Clem. Jerry is not allowed on this site for other reasons. His reputation is not at stake here. I believe William is defending his position because that is what he believes he saw. My personal opinion is the car was some other color than Silver and that William missed noticing it. Joe Blow off the street would look at the pic with the mags on it and say &quot;Silver&quot;. Not unless the Orchid color is brought up do you notice the off color.

</div></div>

Not quite what happened Charlie. All we knew going into this was the car was - B paint. We saw the car late 2010. Clem was not involved at the time and we had not seen the photo. Once again after two hours of examination there was no question all we saw was silver. Only after Clem became involved did the EO claim become a factor. JM emailed me June 17, 2011 and stated: &quot;No way this is Evening Orchid.&quot; One of his neighbors growing up in Baltimore had an EO '65 Impala SS convert, 396 4-speed. It is an instantly recognizable color.

When the owner later posted photos of the car dismantled it was obvious even to me there was a slight lavender tint to the OE paint. EO is hardly 'slightly' lavender. Close up GM code #81 looks silver; from a distance the tint becomes apparent. It is nowhere near as dark as EO.

I was there. EO would have been obvious.

[markinnaples]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: clem</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: olredalert</div><div class="ubbcode-body">----Believe me Clem, I know exactly what you mean. Something similar happened to me several years ago. Maybe I should have entered &quot;to me&quot; at the end of that sentence......Bill S </div></div>I have a friend who went thru this with his 69 ZL-1 corvette when it did not meet what the NCRS said. it is a case of facts vs opinions. I knew what the corvette was as I worked on it when it was brand new. </div></div>

Clem, was this the orange Vette around Pgh with the Gulf Research stickers on it? If so, I remember it from several shows around Pittsburgh in the 80's.

Also, honestly everyone, with the background that Clem has with cars, how anyone can question his statements is beyond me. He's no newbie or some old guy who doesn't remember what they bought, this man has some serious credentials that cannot be dismissed. Just my opinion.

[clem]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: markinnaples</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: clem</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: olredalert</div><div class="ubbcode-body">----Believe me Clem, I know exactly what you mean. Something similar happened to me several years ago. Maybe I should have entered &quot;to me&quot; at the end of that sentence......Bill S </div></div>I have a friend who went thru this with his 69 ZL-1 corvette when it did not meet what the NCRS said. it is a case of facts vs opinions. I knew what the corvette was as I worked on it when it was brand new. </div></div>

Clem, was this the orange Vette around Pgh with the Gulf Research stickers on it? If so, I remember it from several shows around Pittsburgh in the 80's.

Also, honestly everyone, with the background that Clem has with cars, how anyone can question his statements is beyond me. He's no newbie or some old guy who doesn't remember what they bought, this man has some serious credentials that cannot be dismissed. Just my opinion.

</div></div>yes it is

[70 copo]

I will not question Clem. On the other hand I also trust the Norwood workers too.

Others in the hobby have the same opinion?.. obviously not. We seem to be polarized beyond the ability to accomplish research and learn new things these days.