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#221
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JoeC, you may have just hit the nail on the head then. If the Douglas cars are double COPO 9737 cars, then they are "Yenkos" according to Chevrolet. Now just add the striping and Yenko window sticker and you truly have a Yenko. The other 9737 cars ordered by other dealers did not receive the striping and were not marketed as Yenko's and did not pay royalty to Yenko so they obviously would not be Yenko's. Again, this is my opinion, but the 9737 should really be a part of the Yenko definition.
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Marlin,
You are trying to put words in Jacks mouth. He Choose not to sell the Deuce for his own reasons right or wrong. Since he has no desire to participate in this discussion you are getting the hear say from me. It is just that which you mention about Chicago having been such a large market (and it was) Jack Douglass sold quite a few Yenkos. He was one of the highest volume dealers other than Yenko Chevrolet when you include his total sales of both his direct order and the Cannonsberg cars. If he and Don were at odds why wouldn't Don have acted by stopping Jack from selling the cars as Yenkos or setting up other dealers within the state prior to 1970. Jack received his first shippment of Yenkos probably early February. No Jack did not learn of the COPO orders from Dale Berger. It has been clearly stated that he found a shipping invoice from GM, it is labled "Car Shipper". If you follow the sequence of events, which state that he found a "Car Shipper" in two out of the first truck load, which showed the Central Office Production Order Numbers which allowed Jack to place his direct order. Jack had Cannosberg Yenkos on his property long before Berger ever received any of there L72 Iron Block cars. |
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![]() Other people have questioned the Mecum ad besides me. You also said the ad was going to be changed and it is still there. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/confused.gif[/img] <blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr> I spoke to Dana on several occassions, in order to modify the info. on his site .It is not meant to decieve and will hopefully be adjusted very soon. <hr></blockquote> |
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JeffH- other dealers were allowed to ordered 9737 Camaros both L72 Camaro and Chevelle and ZL1s. That does not mean they are Yenkos.
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Jeff,
I have seen Copies of GM documents over the years which clearly show the 9737 option as "Yenko". Don created this option package and it was his own. The reason Berger had info on this package is due to inside info. from GM back to them. This is one of the reasons why the Berger cars are also very special and historically significant. Their order od 40 Camaros and 10 Chevelles and even ZL1s also add to the Legacy of Don Yenko. Since Berger was not a Yenko Dealer and thus did not sell his cars to the public as such, no one should reasonably question or even conclude that the Beger Cars were Yenkos. |
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Stefano:
I don't mean to put any words in Jack's mouth, I'm only trying to figure out why such a big dealer, in a great demographic market, with an exclusive Yenko SportsCars distribution agreement, would not continue throughout '69 by ordering any more 427 Yenko cars from Yenko, nor into '70 when the Yenko Deuces were selling like griddlecakes, for equally good profit. I don't know why it wouldn't make good business sense to continue the 'exclusive dealer' arrangement unless something else really went sour between the two. I propose that something did go wrong enough for Don to revoke the exclusive dealer deal. I speculate that someone (long story) from GM let the cat out of the bag with Berger. Berger ended up with some 427 cars without any Yenko stripes. Douglas found out the COPO # from Berger and ordered some for himself. It's a great idea for Douglas, but the public keeps showing up wanting these Yenko cars that he was the exclusive dealer for, and wouldn't buy the 427 plain cars. Douglas calls up Yenko's parts guys and orders a bunch of stripe sets, and they are sent to him. Don is not exactly sitting around watching the spare parts shipments, so they are already in Douglas' hands when he finds out. Don obviously realizes what is going to happen here, he knows that the COPO word is out via Berger. Don is not a happy camper, and threatens to jump in his plane and pay a visit to Hinsdale, and sue Douglas. The two 'settle out of court' so to speak, by Douglas paying some type of inflated price to Don for the stripes, and Don releases him from the exclusive status in Chicago. End of my Theory, and I feel that there was no formal agreement between the two for Jack to stripe COPO cars and selling them as Yenko's on Don's behalf. I feel that if Don could have gotten the stripes back he would have, but couldn't since there was nothing wrong with the stripe purchase. I have another theory as well, but I'm tired of typing! [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img] Thoughts?
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Marlin 70 Yenko Nova-350/360, 4speed M21, 4.10 Posi (Daddy's Ride) 69 SS Nova-396/375hp, 4speed M20, 3.55 Posi (Benjamin's Ride) 67 RS Camaro-327/250hp, 2speed Glide, & 3.08 Open (Danny's Ride) |
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All future search on this board = this thread 1966 Yenko Stinger for sale. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/ooo.gif[/img]
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Good theory Marlin, There seems to be no disagreement that Don Y was upset about what transpired. With good reason.
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Come on!! Nobody has posted in 40 minutes! [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
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Marlin needs 6 while Stephano needs 9. We should start a betting line!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif[/img] Jim
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