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Sir, the way I understand it, is that N44 manual steering came with short steering arms, long pitman arm, and a quicker ratio manual steering box. I've seen posted that maybe only about 1,500 production cars ordered. I may be wrong, but others have posted it does exist. Any leads or additional information appreciated! Thanks... Bob
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I have never seen one; but the CRG article leads me to believe that unicorn DOES exist.
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There are a few Saginaw boxes that would work if it does not need to be numbers matching. Only the well informed would know the difference.
1990+ Jeep Grand Cherokee has a fast ratio and so do the 94-96 Impala SS cars, should bolt right in. I'm not a "Camaro guy", but I had a few C3's. The box in the C3 is the same as above so I think the camaro box will be the same as a C3... |
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The standard Z/28 manual steering ratio was 24.8:1 [gear] 21.4:1 [overall]. 3.5 turns L-L. Standard production steering gear, 5.75” pitman arm, short steering arms. N44 ordered on a manual steering Z/28: 20:1 [gear] 17.9:1 [overall]. 2.9 turns L-L. Optional steering gear, 5.75” pitman arm, short steering arms. The January 1970 Car Life had an excellent tech article about the 1969 Penske T/A Camaros. There was a comment about steering: "The optional quick 17:1 steering [RPO N44] is used, and with the big tires it is horrendously stiff." Fairly certain one of the Z/28s I owned back in the day was one of the 365 or so built with N44. Very unpleasant to drive, near impossible to park.
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Agree with everything William said. My Z is getting less and less fun to drive the older I get. I have a complete GM PS setup for it, and will probably install it this winter. And I DON'T even have the N44!!!
What I find funny is this: "....with the big tires it is horrendously stiff." I have an E70 15 tire sitting in my garage right now, still in the wrapper. Every time I walk by, I think: man, by modern standards this looks almost like a motorcycle tire. I get it; in 1969 70 series was "big".
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What they meant by 'big tires' were racing tires used in competition.
In the famous Car and Driver Z/28 v. Mustang test, T/A competitor Sam Posey was chosen to drive both cars. The Z/28 had power steering; the Mustang did not. He greatly preferred power steering; Penske tried it for a few races but removed it due to durability issues. The test was in the July 1968 issue. Interesting, the Mustang arrived with F60 x 15 Goodyear tires on 7" wheels.
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I have that magazine. One of the best test articles of all time. I still get it out and read it every few years. The Mustang was a "tunnel port" 302 that never made it into production.
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Thanks Gentlemen, for the additional information. I too am getting old and if I ever find one might wish I hadn't!! I'm going to keep looking though. Thanks again...
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