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Old 03-16-2009, 06:32 PM
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IMO, the ideal solution would be for someone to document the whole weekend, taking precise notes, from the golf tournament, to the meet and greet, to the racing, banquet, auction and shows, so a the end of the weekend, Bob, or any other writer needing info could simply contact them to get accurate information. Any takers?

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Let's get Bob on board here. All he would have to do is post his questions and many of us could reply to him via PM or direct e-mail. I for one would be happy to offer any little bit of assistance to help keep things straight.

I haven't been a SC fan for quite a while but I'll go looking for this issue. Congrats to everyone!
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Old 03-16-2009, 07:10 PM
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I appreciate Bob and other media folks covering the SCR.........I counted 26 pictures in the SC article...cool.

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It was a cool article!!! It's always fun to see photos of events which are a part of our lives.

What would be real cool is maybe having the opportunity to get some copies of the ones which hit the editing room floor!!!!

Dittos all the way.



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Old 03-17-2009, 03:48 AM
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Tom, you made an appreciative and thoughtful post in defense to McClurg's coverage of SCR. Well said. I commend you for that.

However, I am not criticizing McClurg to be facetious here. In my, and many others estimation here, McClurg has made major careless errors in just about every article that he has written on behalf of the sYc and its members. I am looking at several right now. For example, in the one he did about my Deuce he refers to Canonsburg as Mechanicsburg (see article below). He also made errors in relation to Deuce features, etc. I have another article where he credits another individuals sign collection shown at Vette Fest to be owned by me. I can go on and on. There is something to be said about simple fact checking, as it goes a long way. If I were the president of a club that McClurg was covering I would INSIST that he run past me any article that feature my club and its members. The clubs integrity and reputation need to be protected. Unfortunately vigorously in this world. There are many people out there that are just itching to tear up the sYc and its members because of a carelessly written article that is supposedly "fact." I wonder what is being said about a certain 1970 "unrestored" Harrell Camaro right now in the land of the banished.

Again, I am not trying to be rude. As someone who also writes (I write an annual column, have contributed to many books, and have even been just contracted to write a history book on a Chicago neighborhood), I believe in doing the proper research on the topic you are going to write about, even if all it takes is a two minute google search. Most professionals live by this principle. Once again, I am not trying to be a jerk, and I believe that Tom and the sYc do a phenomenal job running and protecting the club. I just think that Bob McClurg needs to take writing about the sYc a little more seriously. It's not a one way street here. We are not the only ones benefiting by being in print. The last time I heard, an author (McClurg), is getting paid for his articles on the sYc and its members. No us, no payday for him. Just get it right.


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Old 03-17-2009, 05:37 AM
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Frank, blame me. If I asked, I would imagine Bob would allow me to proof most, if not all, of his articles, but here lays the problem.

I do not know everything there is to know about these cars, (who does?) so it would be me spending countless hours contacting owners and doing the research, and even then, not for sure if I would get it 100% correct. This would not be so much of a problem if he were doing a book, when I could fit it into my schedule, but often times he is a day or two away from a deadline.

As the head of the sYc, maybe I should get more involved in this aspect of the club, but to tell you the truth, I would rather spend time with my family, friends and my cars, then proofing articles just because a few A-holes want to "tear us up". After all, they have been attacking us for several years, and it seems the only place it has gotten them is banned from numerous web sites and shows, wallowing in their own self-pity. Who cares what they think?

I for one get a rush every time I see one of our member’s cars in print, warts and all.


BTW, others make mistakes, recently SC online did a nice article on Red Alert, listed Terry Carney and Bill Stephenson as still owning it. That was several owners ago, so not for sure where they got that info. To me, really does not matter, just glad they decided to cover the car.
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Old 03-17-2009, 06:04 AM
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I am just happy they show my car. I don't care!!!
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Old 03-17-2009, 06:32 AM
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Ok Tom. I can totally understand your view on the issue. I just wanted to get this out there. If Bob reads this and decides to be more vigilant as any professional would want to be then so be it. If not well then that is ok too I guess.
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Old 03-17-2009, 06:52 AM
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Ok Tom. I can totally understand your view on the issue. I just wanted to get this out there. If Bob reads this and decides to be more vigilant as any professional would want to be then so be it. If not well then that is ok too I guess.

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If he reads this, hopefully he does not decide to say the h-ll with it and stay home. If he does, we are the big losers.
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Old 03-17-2009, 04:02 PM
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Ok Tom. I can totally understand your view on the issue. I just wanted to get this out there. If Bob reads this and decides to be more vigilant as any professional would want to be then so be it. If not well then that is ok too I guess.

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If he reads this, hopefully he does not decide to say the h-ll with it and stay home. If he does, we are the big losers.

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I agree with Tom......We don't need to be so "Nit-Picky" about the wording or Facts.........Look at the "Big" Picture and the coverage the Club and Members get.....That's what's Important.........To Paraprhrase our "New" President........."Words......."Just" words" ...

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Old 03-17-2009, 06:17 PM
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In Bob's defense I have to say he may have little control over some of the miscues. Many of these writers submit articles to the respective publications and are quite surprised at how the final piece appears when the magazine hits the stands. These submissions cross the desks of a number of 'editors' who alter, delete and modify content and size to fit the allowable space.
Based on conversations with Doug Marion just a few short years ago, he submitted articles to Chevy Rumble and had NO idea when or if they would be published. He actually had to go to the news stand, buy each issue, scan through it to see if any of his articles were included, then prepare an invoice and send to John Dianna for payment.
I had lost interest in Super Chevy for a number of reasons, but now that Bob (and Doug Marion from time to time) is submitting articles on events and cars WE care about, I will pick up certain issues of SC. Sure, there are errors from time to time. And I can say for myself, I probably get more upset when it's in an article about a friend's car than if it were mine.
I'm thinking of a day I spent with Dennis Hartweg at the Secretary of State Show just after he took delivery of the #23 ZL-1. He was parked next to a certain DY Yenko Camaro. The crowd would walk right past Dennis' ZL-1 and stop to stare at the Yenko. He and I were standing behind his car kind of chuckling at what we saw. I made the statement that they obviously had no idea what they had just missed. I recall vividly his response, "It doesn't matter what they think; we know, don't we."

I still miss that man.
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....And I can say for myself, I probably get more upset when it's in an article about a friend's car than if it were mine. <font color="red">Me too... </font>



I'm thinking of a day I spent with Dennis Hartweg at the Secretary of State Show just after he took delivery of the #23 ZL-1. He was parked next to a certain DY Yenko Camaro. The crowd would walk right past Dennis' ZL-1 and stop to stare at the Yenko. He and I were standing behind his car kind of chuckling at what we saw. I made the statement that they obviously had no idea what they had just missed. I recall vividly his response, "It doesn't matter what they think; we know, don't we." <font color="red"> I agree..</font>

I still miss that man. <font color="red"> I think we all do. </font>

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