LS6 Build Sheet

[SS4Real]

While I respect your opinion, I would caution you to be careful on fact versus belief. Your statement <span style="font-style: italic"><span style="font-weight: bold">&quot;that all these build sheets were supposed to be removed and thrown away at the end of the lin</span>e&quot; </span>implies a factory procedure to specifically remove and throw away build sheets that is clearly contrary to the many that exist today. While it makes sense to clean out a car before it leaves the factory, nobody has yet provided a corporate directive that documents the requirement to remove build sheets or not. Hence, the belief they were supposed to be removed is not supported unless you can prove that. As you say, they were just pieces of paper back then. Hard to remove ones that are glued inside panels or under the carpet as they simply became part of the car.

Would you please provide some kind of proof that supports your statement that build sheets were supposed to be removed and thrown away? Thanks.

[Keith Seymore]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SS4Real</div><div class="ubbcode-body">While I respect your opinion,</div></div>

Thank you -

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SS4Real</div><div class="ubbcode-body">that is clearly contrary to the many that exist today.</div></div>

When you say &quot;numerous&quot;, or &quot;many&quot;, you mean between 4 and 5 million, right? I mean, I watched roughly 1.1 million trucks go by while I was leaning on the foreman's desk at Flint Assembly during the first eight years of my career alone. Roughly one per minute for 8 years.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SS4Real</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> While it makes sense to clean out a car before it leaves the factory, nobody has yet provided a corporate directive that documents the requirement to remove build sheets or not. </div></div>

I will check some representative PAD sheet for various programs to see what I can find.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SS4Real</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Hard to remove ones that are glued inside panels or under the carpet as they simply became part of the car.</div></div>

Absolutely. I thought I had said as much; inside the door trim or on top of the fuel tank= car gets built up around them. Loose papers inside, inspection tickets, stickers, etc, = thrown away.

As I mentioned earlier, I have been in a GM assembly plant within the last few weeks and stood at the final line and watched the workers throw away every loose piece of paper they found in the vehicle.

By the way, I've learned my lesson now: I keep the paperwork from the interesting/significant ones.

K

[Keith Seymore]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Igosplut</div><div class="ubbcode-body">To that end, do you have any idea why the willow run cars have the smaller broadcast sheets rather than the norm? </div></div>

No - just local plant preference.

You will find it varies within the same plant, too, as they tailor the document to meet their specific needs for that assembly area.

K

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

Great discussion guys.

Do you guys know where 1969 Fremont Chevelle Build sheets ended up, (if they stayed in the car of course)

Ryan

[SS4Real]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Keith Seymore</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I will check some representative PAD sheet for various programs to see what I can find. </div></div>

Thank you. Since this thread is dealing with the LS6 build sheet, any information regarding that 1970 era would be welcome by all, especially documented factory procedures. The passion around this car and era is the subject of frequent discussions as you can imagine so anything that is relevant to procedures from 43 years ago is very valuable and I'm sure you can understand must also pass the scrutiny test before it becomes accepted. Blanket statements are the toughest so that is why I challenged you on the build sheet process. I have yet to see any proof if they were supposed to be thrown away, kept in the car, or it simply did not matter back then. When somebody takes a specific stance on the issue, I would like to know why and I appreciate the debate in good spirit!

[Brucebodyman]

I can tell you for a fact that the build sheet and car are real. That build sheet was glued to the back of the dr. Door panel when I dropped it off to Joey. I sold that car to Jen-jacs in Georgia back in 2007 I bought it from a friend that bought it in bay city mi in around 1993. I was with him whe hebought it All the sheet metal on that car except for the dr fender where NOS including hood,quarters,door skins and pass fender,trunk. Would have had a NOS drivers fender but when I checked all the boxes when I got it home it had 2 nos pass fenders. The guy I bought it from had it dipped at a place in Detroit. When I sold that car to Joey. It was dipped and epoxy dipped and ready to go. Had the numbers matching M-22 with it. I went back to the guy in bay city that my buddy bought it from and he still had it.

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

Thanks Rick

I will look soon

I think I am thread stealing.....

Ryan

[Keith Seymore]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ryan1969Chevelle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Great discussion guys.

Do you guys know where 1969 Fremont Chevelle Build sheets ended up, (if they stayed in the car of course)

Ryan </div></div>

Not specifically, but check the usual suspects (top of the tank, in the door, under the carpet, in the springs of the seat cushion, in the A pillar, behind the headliner, etc.).

K

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

Perfect

Thanks

Ryan

[Tenney]

Great info, Keith, thanks! (didn't come across any in the family Pontiac).

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