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Default Re: 1969 Camaro Special Order Paint Process

Darrell,

Anything I could add is speculation, however LA was already TOWVEYOR for assembly so just like 1982 at NOR if the car was touched up at AGR then blending operations would likely be subject to the same kinds of human issues. In this case the potential for a paint blending operation at the factory where the masking portion of the element was less than adequate.
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Cowl area was painted stripe color on a Z28 by fisher on their side of the plant (at Norwood) when they painted the cowl vent, trunk and spoiler stripes. wiper transmission was installed by Chevy on their side (at Norwood) and should never have paint on them (special paint color cars possibly excluded), unless there was a repair done to the paint after the car was finished (or at least the wipers were installed). Also note that GMs paint specifications called for the inner area of the wiper well to be blacked out after the cowl area was painted white so the wipers arms would be less noticable, and that most cars never had that done to them.

Please note that this thread is discussing NON-standard paint color cars only, not special paint instruction cars which is probably what 99% of the - - tag cars were.
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Old 08-05-2015, 01:01 PM
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Thanks to the OP for posting this. It's always interesting to learn how things were really done in production.
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Old 08-05-2015, 01:06 PM
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If I am not mistaken the wiper cowls were striped at Fisher at the same time the deck was striped. HOWEVER given the information Phil has uncovered I would (IF POSSIBLE)check to see if there is a variation in original stripe color front to rear... if so I would venture to guess the possibility exists that the wiper cowl was repainted to match the hood stripes in the touch-up booth.

FWIW The stripe color front to rear looked off on the original paint black RS/Z, not by much but my opinion was the front looked like Ermine and the rear like Dover. The Wiper cowl stripe color match matters less on a Cowl Hood car than a flat hood because of the way the hood overhangs the wiper cowl.
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Default Re: 1969 Camaro Special Order Paint Process

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 70 copo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Darrell,

Anything I could add is speculation, however LA was already TOWVEYOR for assembly so just like 1982 at NOR if the car was touched up at AGR then blending operations would likely be subject to the same kinds of human issues. In this case the potential for a paint blending operation at the factory where the masking portion of the element was less than adequate. </div></div>


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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: firstgenaddict</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If I am not mistaken the wiper cowls were striped at Fisher at the same time the deck was striped. HOWEVER given the information Phil has uncovered I would (IF POSSIBLE)check to see if there is a variation in original stripe color front to rear... if so I would venture to guess the possibility exists that the wiper cowl was repainted to match the hood stripes in the touch-up booth.

FWIW The stripe color front to rear looked off on the original paint black RS/Z, not by much but my opinion was the front looked like Ermine and the rear like Dover. The Wiper cowl stripe color match matters less on a Cowl Hood car than a flat hood because of the way the hood overhangs the wiper cowl. </div></div>

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Clem please give it a break.... </div></div> no matter what people post here it is all opinion or speculation and I have and know the facts on my Z/28.
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people who have never ordered a new special paint car and had it delivered to the dealership should not be posting about what and how it happens.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: clem</div><div class="ubbcode-body">people who have never ordered a new special paint car and had it delivered to the dealership should not be posting about what and how it happens. </div></div>

Im sorry Clem but what does ordering a special paint car have to do with how the procedures were done at the plant during the production. The comments provided above are from people that have talked with plant workers or were in engineering from GM when the cars were new.. That to me are 2 totally different aspects.. Just because you ordered a car doesnt mean you knew how it was assembled in a production setting unless you were there on the line when the car was coming down..

Chill out a little.. We are all here to learn (or at least I know I am).
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Default Re: 1969 Camaro Special Order Paint Process

There has been more relevant information brought forth in a few posts here than in 100 pages of other threads... can everyone please refrain from personal jabs I'd like to keep this one open and figure out some more information.
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