Added value of good documentation?

[Verne_Frantz]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: paceme</div><div class="ubbcode-body">To me GM documentation is icing on the cake, however the pedigree of a car isn't proven by a piece of paper itself. Many cars are &quot;built&quot; around the paperwork. Does it add value yes, but the car itself should be able to prove it's legitimacy by all it's components, finishes and history.
</div></div>

This is why I believe there is a need for an &quot;expert&quot; opinion by someone who is known to be able to authenticate an original block stamp from a restamp (as well as many other clues the car has to offer.) This the final verification that the car still has it's born with components that the paperwork describes.

Verne

[scott s]

I think as long as orig docs,photos,owner history etc prove its a real car ie:l78, ls6, l79,l88,z28,copo,yenko,ss, r/s etc etc,most people are willing to invest the $$$ into it to restore with satisfaction even if the drivetrain is long gone because they know it was a special car and worth the return not just a run of the mill piece. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif[/img]

[Salvatore]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: m22mike</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So in the case of my 69 Camaro L78 , nom correct coded JH, Block, born with M22 and 4.10 , x66, 10 10 . Real car, 11 Ohio titles. No paper, just the NCRS dealer record.
Question. How do you value the Car with the M22 as the only real proof that it is a
L78 car ?

Thanks Mike
</div></div>

Sounds like my Z/28 Mike. NOM, correct dated block with original M21 and 4.10 gear. Its a Berger car (I assume) with the rear &quot;BY BERGER&quot; emblem also BUT a non X code car and no records from NCRS. Was never frame offed so may be easier to tell.

[bergy]

Good discussion. Our SYC registry includes the 3 components of docs: 1. Ownership history, 2. GM/dealer paperwork, and 3. Certification.

Lots of fake paperwork out there - it's much harder to fake ownership history (with current contact info). Unfortunately, many of the old owners have passed on, so notarized statements are important also.

IMO - the value of really rare cars without any of the 3 components falls off of a cliff.

Now a &quot;plug&quot; for our registry - get your supercars REGISTERED &amp; make sure that the information is current!!!!

[ANDY M]

Bergy, my car is registered, but other than that I have no paperwork. I am not looking to sell my car yet, and I would not send it to an auction, so what kind of &quot;certification&quot; would I need? I've owned the car for over 22 years, and in that time no one has ever told me it wasn't a COPO, but is that proof that it's a real car and not a fake?

[Stefano]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: paceme</div><div class="ubbcode-body">To me GM documentation is icing on the cake, however the pedigree of a car isn't proven by a piece of paper itself. Many cars are &quot;built&quot; around the paperwork. Does it add value yes, but the car itself should be able to prove it's legitimacy by all it's components, finishes and history.


</div></div>


True that.

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bergy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Good discussion. Our SYC registry includes the 3 components of docs: 1. Ownership history, 2. GM/dealer paperwork, and 3. Certification.

Lots of fake paperwork out there - it's much harder to fake ownership history (with current contact info). Unfortunately, many of the old owners have passed on, so notarized statements are important also.

IMO - the value of really rare cars without any of the 3 components falls off of a cliff.

Now a &quot;plug&quot; for our registry - get your supercars REGISTERED &amp; make sure that the information is current!!!! </div></div>

I agree with &quot;Bergy&quot; Three EZ steps to bulletproof documentation. All three steps are important.

1: Ownership History

2: GM/Dealer Paperwork

3: Certification

I have all three but my car doesn't run, is it valuable? :-)

Ryan

[bergy]

PM sent to Andy