'67 Muncie Shifter

[68SSCamaro]

I recently joined the group and this is my first post. I have also been collecting information on the 67-69 Camaro factory shifters for the Camaro Research Group. I have photos of both 67-68 sb and what I think is bb along with Saginaw. I also believe the Muncie shifter was used on the 67 Firebird so there is probably another set of linkage. I can post the images if anyone is interested. It might take some time to find them and format them. I think I have shifters with/without both the Muncie and T.

NCGuy68, I would be interested in seeing your drawings. I'm also restoring a 68 Camaro 4 speed car and still need the stabilizer rod. I have one for the 68-72 Chevelle that might be close. You can contact me here at my work email if you want to, [email protected]

[NCGuy68]

Welcome to the board Martin. I think you'll find some helpful and very knowledgeable users here.

Please do post pics of the shifters that you have. They would be helpful to many members of this board. You may want to post them in the restoration section as you will get more views there.

I'am willing to share my tracings/drawings with you and for the good of The CRG. (You guys are doing a pretty good job there.) Which ones are you interested in?

By the way, scroll up to Charley's reply and see the complete SB shifter pic attached.

The stablizer shaft for the 68-72 Chevelle shifters is close but is larger in diameter and offset differently then Camaro.

I have a very nicely restored 69-72 Muncie Chevelle shifter if anyone is interested

[JoeC]

Welcome to the site Martin. I don't think the Chevelle bar will work as I have one and it looks a lot different then the Camaro bar.
NCGuy68, thanks for the info
I looked at the shifters I have lying around and one is a Saginaw 3 sp with the "T" stamped on it. One is a Saginaw 4 sp with a straight bar with "1378" stamped on it.
One to the left in picture is a 70 BB Nova Muncie shifter and is similar to Camaro except the Chrome handle is different
NCGuy68, In your above post where you have item "2" are you saying there was a Muncie 3 sp shifter in 69? All the 69 Camaros I have seen were Hurst shifters including a 3sp car.

The rods and bar sometimes have numbers stamped in them. The numbers can be difficult to see but if they are found on an original BB 67-68 Camaro Munice shifter it would help to ID the parts.

[budnate]

Not to change the subject, JoeC do you want to sell the loose handle or does anyone have a 3spd one. I would like to cut and spline one and put it on my CompPlus linkage so i look correct but still shift nice.

Last question for the linkage experts, i have been told and have read where early 67 cars up till about Jan had plain handles regardless of trans it was mated to, can anyone confirm 100% one way or the other.

Thnx Bud.

[Zedder]

Thanks Craig. I've been tied up with Union negotiations but will try and get the pics to you tomorrow. If anyone has a set of 67-68 BB rods and a stabilzer, I'm looking for them. Thanks,

[NCGuy68]

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NCGuy68, In your above post where you have item "2" are you saying there was a Muncie 3 sp shifter in 69? All the 69 Camaros I have seen were Hurst shifters including a 3sp car.


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Sure enough Joe, there was a limited production 3 sp Muncie trans in 69, but Chevy cancelled it early in the production run. The White Book shows it as RPO MC1 with 3079 units sold. The 69 assembly manual shows it as RPO M13. Al Colvin shows a cut-away of it in his 65-69 'by the numbers book', (page 264) and calls it a "Muncie heavy-duty 3-speed transmission". I actually bought one with the shifter still hanging on it at a swap meet years ago. What caught my eye was the fact that it was a 3 sp shifter but had Muncie stamped on the handle. Twenty plus years of grease and grime told me it wasn't a fake. After looking at it over the course of the 3 day meet, it finally dawned on me that it was the often over-looked 69 Camaro Muncie 3 speed. I made a deal with the seller and still have it today. I consider it a interesting piece of 69 Camaro history.

I agree with you that the shifter on the left in your attached pic is Nova. I have 2 of those Muncie stamped handles myself. I think that shifter/handle combination was 'factory' for 67-8 Nova with bucket seats.

I have seen numbers stamped on some rods and bars but I've never been able to make any sense out of them. As far as I can tell, they don't relate to any GM group or part numbers. Of course, I'am always open to suggestions.

Thanks for your info and picture.

[TDW]

Craig...I sent you a PM.

[Kim_Howie]

So what is this stablizer bar from ??

[JoeC]

Looks like Chevelle.
Is there a number on it?
What is the lenth?

[Kim_Howie]

Joe I see no #s on it, it's about a foot long Kim