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Old 07-03-2004, 08:06 AM
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Why is every car frowned upon because they don't have smog???????? Every time a really nice car is posted there someone is saying...wheres the smog?

I can't wait to get that crap off of my Deuce. The only reason it's still on is because I promised Marlin when I blow his doors off it would be a fair fight. After SCR7 it is gettin deep sixed!
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Old 07-03-2004, 08:29 AM
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People love the smog. When I'm at a car show someone always coments on it. That is how insane we are. The first thing that got thrown in the trash is the thing everyone wants now.
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Old 07-03-2004, 10:00 AM
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Why is every car frowned upon because they don't have smog???????? Every time a really nice car is posted there someone is saying...wheres the smog?

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Nobody is frowning on the car, why can't someone point out something that might give another a barganing chip at a dealership where the car is most likely on consignment and the seller is gonna get several thousand less than the asking price? You're not the seller or the dealer listing the car are you?

From the 3 pic's I've seen the engine looks very clean, tie-raps are cool holding the hood up on a car like the mule but look real tacky in place of wire looms and the grill stiffner is bent, it's little things that make me wonder and suggest it's likely to be a consignment and over priced. I'm sure it's a nice car but if you have to spend $1500 to put smog back on it, replace a possible broken grill and since there are no more shots showing the rest of the car who knows what other little items might add up to another grand or more that could come off the asking price right off the top.

Just a small tidbit more on the smog equipment, here in CA there is no manditory smog test for these old cars. The law still says the car has to pass both visual and and be compliant to be operated. So we all run around in a grey area, if you get pulled over and the cop decides to send you to the smog ref and you don't pass visuals what do you do? Everyone use to take their chances, many still do and the cops are fairly cool but we have this group of folks that feel our old cars are gross polluters. They keep introducing bills that if passed would put everything back to 1964 in the loop for smog checks... Funny, was there even any smog equipment on many of the early say, 1964 cars? The bill starters don't care if they are testing and failing cars that have no polution control devices to be repaired, they are just glad to get them gross polluters off the road.

So in light of all that, smog pumps and proper exhaust manifolds are in big demand out here. Hobbiests are just being prepared for what could be coming their way in a few years. Imagine what it might be like 5 years from now trying to find a smog pump!!

I got a bit long winded but I hope that answered your question! Besides all that, why do you care what others want to talk about or want to do with their cars?

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Old 07-03-2004, 04:21 PM
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Hey Frank! Deep six it over here.
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Hey Rick the line starts here. I'm first.
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Funny, was there even any smog equipment on many of the early say, 1964 cars?

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Yes there was DJ...at least as early as 61 because thats the earliest Cal car I have owned...a Pontiac with California emmissions...primitive but still there...same with Chevy....mostly consisted of closed crank case stuff...PCV valves instead of road draft tubes...
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You're right, but there are big differences in a PCV valve and a smog pump and assoc. plumbing...
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Besides all that, why do you care what others want to talk about or want to do with their cars?


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That's real funny Dennis......that is what I thought when I saw your comment about the smog. Not every car has to be totally "correct." It seems that every time a car is posted here people look at it and start to list the things that are not factory correct. Some of us couldn't care less if it is correct or not. I for one just want to drive em and have a good time.

Every one is entitled to there opinion I guess....that goes for us both. Afterall this is a public forum. I will try to look at it that way more often. It's just that I have been here for a couple of years and some people may have noticed that it is a pet peeve of mine when cars are picked apart weather they are sold by dealers or not. I also have heard the argument about helping potential buyers so they don't get screwed. The flip side to that is that some people like to hide behind that just to show everybody how smart they are.

Here is another scenario. My friend and I were at a cruise night yesterday. My friend is relatively new to the show circuit with his car. He spotted a 70 Chevelle with a terrible paint job. He laughed and said how $hitty it looked. I was pissed and had to explain to him car show etiquette. It went something like keep your comments to your self. Or if you have nothing nice to say don't say it at all. I mean if that car were at a car show would you walk up to the owner and point out..."wheres the smog" or "The grill whatever piece is missing". I think not. Most of us hate "that guy" at a car show. Why can't those rules apply here?

Not trying to start WWIII with you. This is just a friendly discussion
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Old 07-04-2004, 08:14 AM
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"I can't wait to get that crap off of my Deuce. The only reason it's still on is because I promised Marlin when I blow his doors off it would be a fair fight. After SCR7 it is gettin deep sixed!" ... Do you really think it will be much faster without the smog pump ?
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