The last Camaro....what's it worth???

[zmanrc]

Hmmm.... Interesting.
I'm sure my friend with the red car in at the Woodward Cruise today as he lives in the area. I'm guessing he has not seen any of this as yet.

[Zedder]

Thanks Rat Pack

[RichSchmidt]

Well are we talking about the last one made or the last one sold.I know I went to the Chevy dealership where I buy all my new Chevys,and in 2004,they had a brand new never titled 2002 convertable V6 car on the floor that"wasnt for sale".This one could have been thousands from the last one made,but it might be the last one sold.I think they still have it.Another Chevy dealer in my area closed a few years back,and sold off the last of their cars.I had a job fixing the phones in there a few times,and I got to walk around in their "museum" .The owner had aquired a few cars over the years that he never titled,they just sat there in his loft.One was a 65 or 66 Impala,while the other was a GNX Buick that he swapped his way into thru the network of deaers.Neither car was every titled in any state.Of course in 2004 my friend also got the first ever title for his 1968 camaro race car which was sold new with nothing other thn a cirtificate of origin back in 1968,and never titled and raced until 1971 where it was abandoned in a local engine shop.My friend bought it in 1993 with 425 original miles on it,and could figure out how to title it until last year.Maybe that is the last Camaro titled by the public Who knows.

[Zedder]

Second to last built and last released for public sale.

[RareSS]

There is a loaded out black 2002 Camaro SS in Dallas that has never been registered and it is not for sale either! Dealership still has it! I wanted it! Looks like a lot of "last Camaros sold" showing up!

[zmanrc]

I don't own the car nor have I seen the documentation presented with the car so you can take everything I say with a grain of salt. Thanks to the several people that emailed me last night.

Last year at the bowling green show both GM's red vert and the red Ebay Z were displayed together and GM billed them as "the last 2 camaro's ever built". Not last one built and last US sale.

I was reminded by someone else that cars are taken out of sequence on the line all the time. Which number and which CAR actually came off the line last could be 2 different things
As I said I have no direct knowledge of any of this and have not heard from the owner of the red car as yet.

But to answer your buddy's original question as to worth. I agree with what was suggested on another board. Put it on Ebay with a high reserve and he will get an idea of what the market will bear or take it to Barrett Jackson where you will likely have to put it up with no reserve.

[Zedder]

It gets more interesting all the time..I spoke with Marc who owns the red car this morning (very nice guy) and he told me about the pics he has etc. of his car on the line with the GM retained Camaro and Firebird verts. However, as the letter that I posted states, the GM Camaro vert is vin 467, the GM Firebird vert is 466, my friend's vert is 465, and Marc's coupe is 461???? I guess the next step is to contact GM and get the times that each car was produced to see if the red coupe was produced in sequence and then placed in line for the photos or whether it was held back during production. It's funny though that the last 3 consecutive VINS are all verts

[Zedder]

Here is a pic I found of the last Camaro retained by GM...I wonder if that is 461 over on the side???

[zmanrc]

I guess I would persue it as well if I were you. But "officially" GM says the last cars off the line were the red vert and the red Z.
I guess my question would be; Why would GM make such a big deal about the last US car and have no fanfare at all about your black vert if it were the last car for sale period, just sending it off to a dealer. Really looks like the red Z was pulled out of out of line and put back in to be finished last. But I would love to hear what GM has to say about all this and if the gentleman that sent your letter gets his hand smacked for speaking out of turn (if that was the case). Please let us know what you find out.

[Zedder]

I can appreciate your position given that your friend is involved, but I have yet to see anything from "GM" that says anything more than that the red car is the last for sale in the US. Anyone who knows how VINs are sequenced can tell which car was built last. The info in the letter I posted is from GM and came from their production records. However, if putting the red car aside after it is built and bringing it back on-line after the black car for the photos makes it the last one "officially", so be it. The GM records showing the time the cars were produced will probably be the only thing that will prove to me which is really the last Camaro. Hopefully, we can get that info tomorrow. I don't think the red car's value will be hurt by this given the fanfare it received, but it does make you think a little doesn't it If I was a rich man, I'd probably want to own both for my collection