4 speeds in monte carlo's?

[69LM1]

Does the magazine article have any backup or proof it was originally a 4 speed car?
Rich

[scott s]

How about a 70 monte carlo fact bb 4spd 12 bolt posi with f41 suspension,tach&gauges,console,buckets,duel exhaust with -- special paint fully documented and #s matching will be forsale at spring carlisle

[69LM1]

Right, but I bet it is a 402BB, non ss car though? Although pretty cool anyways.
Rich

[scott s]

Yes its a 402 car they only made 500 or so compared to 3,500
ss cars i believe...and considering probally half are still left thats about 250 cars give or take . I believe these cars are going to take off in price$$$ pretty soon especially the 4 speeds, due to the prices of the ss chevelles and the other big block A bodies there cheap muscle.....

[69LM1]

I agree that the 402's are ripe for a skyrocket in pricing. In fact, they are already jumping up. I am assuming that the stated 500 prod nummber is for 4 speeds? I am sure that there were many more than 500 402's made. Here are the prod numbers from firstgenmc:

1970
Total Production:
Sport Coupe 142,153
SS 454 Package 3,823
Total Monte Carlo Production 145,976

Automatic Level Control (SS only) 3,823
330 hp Turbo-Jet 400 V8 (actually 402 ci) 7,456
360 hp Turbo-Jet 454 V8 (SS only) 3,823
3-Speed Manual 545
4-Speed Manual 1,428

1971
Total Production:
Sport Coupe 126,681
SS 454 Package** 1,919
Total Monte Carlo Production 128,600

300 hp Turbo-Jet 400 V8 (actually 402 ci) 8,633
355 hp Turbo-Jet 454 V8** 1,772
3-Speed Manual Transmission 280
4-Speed Manual Transmission 349



All data courtesy of
http://www.firstgenerationmontecarlo...nnumbers.shtml

Rich

[69LM1]

Ooops, forgot to add, for the conspiricy theorists out there:
<<<<<snip>>>>>>&g t;
* Excludes 16,003 units listed as Canadian imports.
** Why are the SS-454 and 454 production numbers different here? There are a lot of crazy rumors that there were SS cars that did not come with 454 engines. Our stand here at the FGMCC is that the other 147 cars are Canadian built 454's which were not added to the total of 454 engines, but were added to the total number of SS454 cars built.
<<<<end snip>>>>>>>>

[mrrec]

The 3 speed Monte was absolutely built. We made terrible fun of the high school teacher with his green, jacked up Monte with three-on-the-tree.
Dave

[PeteLeathersac]

As a side note and not that anyone here cares for the '78 and up Montes but they built 4-speeds in these too....no idea on production but remember a chum in High School had a new '78 or '79 stick car. .
~ Pete

~ Pete

[flyingn]

About 10 years ago I saw a 19k mile 70 SS with a 4 speed with original sticker.. Yup it was factory.. to bad it was the turd brown with tan interior..

Frank

[SS427]

More importantly, too bad you did not buy that turd brown SS. You might be surprised what that car would be worth today if in fact there were documents to back it up.
Rick