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Here's a little more info on our French buddies......received this from a USMC Vietnam Vet...it really sums up the whole deal!
Dick Forrey of the Vietnam veterans Association wrote. "Recently we asked the local TARGET store to be a proud sponsor of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall during our spring recognition event. We received the following reply from the local TARGET management: " Veterans do not meet our area of giving. We only donate to the arts, social action groups, gay & lesbian causes, and education" So, I'm thinking, if the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall and veterans in general, do not meet their donation criteria, then something is really wrong at this TARGET store. We weren't asking for thousands of dollars, not even hundreds, just a small sponsorship for a memorial remembrance. As a follow-up, I E-mailed the TARGET U.S. Corporate Headquarters and their response was the same! That is their national policy..... Then I looked into the company further. they will not allow the Marines to collect for Toys for Tots at any of their stores. During the Iraq deployment, they would not allow families of employees who were called up to continue their insurance coverage while they were in military service. Then I dug further...TARGET is a French owned corporation! Now, I'm thinking again..if TARGET cannot support American Veterans, then why should my family and I support their stores by spending our hard earned American dollars! And, have the profits sent to France! Without the American Vets where would France be today? "They would most likely be speaking German and trading in Deutsch Marks" Richard Forrey Vietnam Veterans Association How's that from our French friends....the fold like a cheap suit every time somebody pushes them. Think about all those guys buried in Flanders Fields and the thousands who made the ultimate sacrifice on Omaha Beach! Someone in our political leadership has to speak up and set the world straight!.It is long overdue....... wilma ![]() ![]()
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Maybe this letter makes it easier to understand how Israel feels about French soldiers being the UN peacekeeping troops between them and Hezbollah. No wonder they won't leave Lebanon until the French show up.
The French have a long history of anti-semitism, and collaborating with their enemies. If you think the American people don't trust the French, just think how Israel feels about being "protected" by them from Hezbollah. ![]() France is the next Facist Muslim target.
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Hey Tom,
Want to buy an original French military rifle? Only dropped once ![]()
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"Veterans do not meet our area of giving. We only donate to the arts, social action groups, gay & lesbian causes, and education" [/ QUOTE ] That's the lawyers talking. Supporting arts and education is a no-brainer. Everybody loves arts and education so it's no financial risk to the corporation to support them. Just as every fund-raiser nowadays is "for kids." Easy, no $$$ risk. Social action groups and gay and lesbian groups can cause all sorts of problems for the corporation. If Target were to refuse to support one of these groups there'd be an uproar over Target's "intolerance."* Being labeled "intolerant"* would cost the corporation millions, so corporate lawyers whisper, "It's cheaper to support social activists and gay/lesbian causes" into the ears of the board of directors. Veterans groups don't cause the same kind of uproar that the more vocal groups do so it's easier for Target to refuse support to vets. Think of the "squeaky wheel" analogy. Vets don't represent a vocal and potentially expensive problem the way certain other social groups do.** If Target's legal department (and every other corporation for that matter) sees no financial liability/loss of business then they'll okay their support. If they see a huge financial liability for not offereing support then they quietly allow Target to support a certain group. Veterans groups (apparently) don't fall into the "We'd better support them or it'll cost us big dollars" category. *Tolerance: You have to tolerate me but I don't have to tolerate you. (Now you know all you need to know about "tolerance.") **Veterans have seen all the war and conflict they can stand. Thus, they are often too proud and civil to cause costly demonstrations against a corporation such as Target. The vets just fold the flag and move on and Target's legal department knows that. Another thing to keep in mind is that average Americans don't want to be reminded of the sacrifices made by American military veterans. Americans want their wars won cleanly and in an exciting, celebratory fashion and NO BLOOD and GUTS please. So when the Vietnam Memorial Wall comes to town it's a big downer for most people, many of whom have no idea what Vietnam is or what happened there. The real vets and the educated people who know damn-well what that wall really means will come out and support the vets and the sacrifice of our fallen heores. Everyone else just wants to go into Target and buy stuff and not be reminded of messy wars and tragic loss. Oh, and cheap gas too please. American society has become extremely comfortable since 1945 and we've given in to a consumpton and comfort-based standard of living. American soldiers die in Iraq almost daily and no one says a word. BP announces a pipline shutdown in Alaska and there's sudden nervous concern over rising gas prices. But, I digress. Until veterans groups make more noise than certain social groups and gay/lesbian groups, the corporate lawyers and the American public will continue to ignore them. The squeaky wheel gets the grease. (The money and the attention, that is.) |
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[ QUOTE ] "Veterans do not meet our area of giving. We only donate to the arts, social action groups, gay & lesbian causes, and education" [/ QUOTE ] That's the lawyers talking. Supporting arts and education is a no-brainer. Everybody loves arts and education so it's no financial risk to the corporation to support them. Just as every fund-raiser nowadays is "for kids." Easy, no $$$ risk. Social action groups and gay and lesbian groups can cause all sorts of problems for the corporation. If Target were to refuse to support one of these groups there'd be an uproar over Target's "intolerance."* Being labeled "intolerant"* would cost the corporation millions, so corporate lawyers whisper, "It's cheaper to support social activists and gay/lesbian causes" into the ears of the board of directors. Veterans groups don't cause the same kind of uproar that the more vocal groups do so it's easier for Target to refuse support to vets. Think of the "squeaky wheel" analogy. Vets don't represent a vocal and potentially expensive problem the way certain other social groups do.** If Target's legal department (and every other corporation for that matter) sees no financial liability/loss of business then they'll okay their support. If they see a huge financial liability for not offereing support then they quietly allow Target to support a certain group. Veterans groups (apparently) don't fall into the "We'd better support them or it'll cost us big dollars" category. *Tolerance: You have to tolerate me but I don't have to tolerate you. (Now you know all you need to know about "tolerance.") **Veterans have seen all the war and conflict they can stand. Thus, they are often too proud and civil to cause costly demonstrations against a corporation such as Target. The vets just fold the flag and move on and Target's legal department knows that. Another thing to keep in mind is that average Americans don't want to be reminded of the sacrifices made by American military veterans. Americans want their wars won cleanly and in an exciting, celebratory fashion and NO BLOOD and GUTS please. So when the Vietnam Memorial Wall comes to town it's a big downer for most people, many of whom have no idea what Vietnam is or what happened there. The real vets and the educated people who know damn-well what that wall really means will come out and support the vets and the sacrifice of our fallen heores. Everyone else just wants to go into Target and buy stuff and not be reminded of messy wars and tragic loss. Oh, and cheap gas too please. American society has become extremely comfortable since 1945 and we've given in to a consumpton and comfort-based standard of living. American soldiers die in Iraq almost daily and no one says a word. BP announces a pipline shutdown in Alaska and there's sudden nervous concern over rising gas prices. But, I digress. Until veterans groups make more noise than certain social groups and gay/lesbian groups, the corporate lawyers and the American public will continue to ignore them. The squeaky wheel gets the grease. (The money and the attention, that is.) [/ QUOTE ] Can you say.......... ![]() ![]() Ken ![]()
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Sorry Guys!
This one (the Target email from a vet) is Urban Legend and a RUMOR. You need to be careful when passing these along. Check sites such as snopes.com etc to make sure that the email you got was true and not a scam from a competitor. http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/target.asp
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This one (the Target email from a vet) is Urban Legend and a RUMOR. [/ QUOTE ] ![]() |
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Does'nt make you any less correct though, just not in this case!
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Well.....I guess my Marine buddy passed on some bad info..it is easy to get carried away along with these kind of things....about now I don't know what to believe
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Ask any returning soldier what is really going on there and its a completely different story then what we get out of our media. Peolpe need to know exactly whats going on so we can all make a informed plan.
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